I think it’s perfectly reasonable for any sane person to run as fast and as far from Blitz as humanly possible. Unfortunately, I’m trapped here for life now. Hotel Blitz.
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Thanks for your post @Bacchusfox . I am neutral regarding who wins the board election, but I think it is important candidates can feel comfortable to communicate with us on this forum.
My biggest problem with the board is the silence from them (I’m not expecting regular updates, but I just want to hear from them occasionally). So I am glad to hear from a candidate about why I should vote for her.
Let’s critique their positions, but in a respectful way. For my part, I feel much the same way as @Heffsgirl re the monumental stuff up re Thorburn, but I am still prepared to keep an open mind about who to vote for. At this stage, I don’t even know who is running! But hopefully we can hear from some of the other candidates as well.
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howdy peoples! just a reminder, any more questions/comments about the 2024 AGM and election, please post in the other thread:
I agree….
Irrespective of one’s views about a candidate, we have Blitzers ‘demanding’ candidates come on this forum to engage with forum contributors and what do they get, shitcanning left, right and centre. They’re on a hiding to nothing.
If Blitzers want incumbents to engage on this forum, treat them with respect and engage with them respectfully and rationally. Have a rational and respectful dialogue. Otherwise a director might rightly argue, ‘why do I bother?.. It’s not worth it’.
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Transparency is one of the biggest issues for NFP sporting bodies. Members and supporters are reliant on media for information. Journos are conflicted because of the need to have an inside source in the club. It’s only when internal politics get ugly that we get more information. Even then, the information is skewed.
Clubs take their lead from AFL House culture.
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I don’t think anyone has been disrespectful? What I don’t like is coming into the forum and then seeking to further engage on other forums. This lacks transparency.
If you come on the forum for Q&A and it’s a reasonable question then it should be answered here.
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I would you thought that calling someone gutless is a tad on the disrespectful side.
this, or don’t bother - you’re setting false expectations
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How is that disrespectful?
That’s a reasonable point. She did pop back though. Regarding disrespectful, I think some of the remarks around the incumbent and ‘her’ performance on the Board have been unwelcoming and mildly disrespectful.
MVG is hoping the members reflect on the last two years as how to mark club performance. Post review and transition into new era. Yes, a bumpy start but in the end the club is now stable and United whilst investing in the right areas in football. Results are expected to take some time which is an unfortunately reality.
I’m more than critical of the Boards (Clubs) performance off field. As I’ve said before, I lament this introverted, complicit and conservative persona this club now portrays. The club has failed to deliver an extra MCG home game which to me raises questions around capability of the commercial team (and club leaders). I think the club communicates to members poorly overall, its membership figures are terrible, it must be recognised. It’s financially stable but not performing well financially compared to its competitive set. It has little cash reserves and insufficient non football business operations to support the clubs ambitions moving forward. The performance off field for its size is mediocre at best…
But at least we have a recognition of required transformation, an external review guiding footy decisions and resource allocation and a turnover of legacy staff needed for renewal.
We now need to trust the club is back on track footy wise. I’m far from convinced it’s heading in the right direction off field but most here care less about that.
If you describe someone as gutless, you think they have a weak character and lack courage or determination . [disapproval] By attacking me, by attacking my wife, he has proved himself to be a gutless coward. Synonyms: faint-hearted, weak, cowardly, chicken [slang] More Synonyms of gutless.
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Yup so how’s that disrespectful?
How is it not?
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How is it disrespectful to suggest that someone has a week character? Particularly in the context of board people? Having a strong character is a requirement of the role. I don’t think she has that requirement, or at the very least isn’t displaying it by filtering people to her Facebook page and using this site for their own personal gain. Is that disrespectful now?
That is obvious
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Hi Melissa,
You’ve sort of half addressed one of my questions from the other thread so I suppose you wouldn’t mind talking about it here.
I asked about Andrew’s skills vs the other options available and you’ve mentioned some attributes here.
Addressing your comments.
Tough footballer.
What on earth is relevant about how tough someone is on the football field to how appropriate they are as a pick for Football Director and President in Waiting? Is the implication that an intelligent and capable ex player would be marked down as an option if they weren’t a hard nut on field?
Footy smarts.
Is this something gained during or after his career? As I mentioned, Andrew played for only one club, ours, during our weakest era and was never involved at any club (including ours) as a coach or administrator.
Successful businessman.
Andrew did some fairly lucrative property development deals with some coterie members. What sort of relevant business skills would this demonstrate that would get us excited about bringing him in to not just running but turning around the fortunes a mid sized sporting organisation with 150 employees? Is there really no one available that could have demonstrated more relevant and transferable acumen?
I’d be interested, again, in hearing you expand or explain why Andrew was the best available appointment vs any other candidates available (if any others were indeed assessed) other than that he’s an Essendon person with a lot of money and broadly well liked.
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Disagree, but who needs unity if you have success?
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Again why should anyone trust that any of you on the board who were part of the thorburn debacle, and now the dodoro sacking, as being capable of running anything with good governance?
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LOL imagine attacking them for sacking Dodoro when for 5+ years you have all been screaming for them to sack Dodoro. Sacking someone comes with consequences, so not expecting that and then attacking them for it shows a group of people with their heads up their own backsides.
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I apologise for wanting a board capable of sacking an executive without it being dragged to Fair Work
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