EFC v Adelaide Rd 1 - 12 days on, match day thread

[Albert_Thurgood]

Joe to run rampart I hope

Now that’s the sort of solid defence that I would like EFC to set wright!

[tippa]

Mcniece hasn’t established himself as a best 22 player so I wouldn’t say he is a loss at this point of time.

Also we need a minimum of 3 key position defenders against this forward line. Dea will need to play as the 4th as they will have 4 key forwards:

Match Ups

Fogarty (193cm / 94kg - Hurley (193cm / 92kg
Lynch (193cm / 88kg - Dea (186cm / 85kg
Jenkins (200cm / 108kg - Hartley (198cm / 104kg
McGovern (190cm / 89kg - Brown (196cm / 95kg

Betts - Saad

[mrjez]

Joe to run rampart I hope

The rampart is the castle at its highest point.

[barnz]

Just shoot me fam

[Wanderlust]

Mcniece hasn’t established himself as a best 22 player so I wouldn’t say he is a loss at this point of time.

Also we need a minimum of 3 key position defenders against this forward line. Dea will need to play as the 4th as they will have 4 key forwards:

Match Ups

Fogarty (193cm / 94kg - Hurley (193cm / 92kg
Lynch (193cm / 88kg - Dea (186cm / 85kg
Jenkins (200cm / 108kg - Hartley (198cm / 104kg
McGovern (190cm / 89kg - Brown (196cm / 95kg

Betts - Saad

The AFL story which ruled Ambrose out also said Brown wasn’t available unfortunately.

[tippa]

Crowe said he is good to go.

[Black_Kavanagh]

Getting pretty annoying to hear crow say how well things are going even though we have 9-10 blokes injured and a game hasn’t been played yet.

Crow did a good job last year but things are not going great thus far this year.

Obviously collision injuries or breaks like Gleeson and ambrose are hard to avoid but the laverde situation was one which appeared to be mismanaged.

Agree. Wtf is he thinking? Things are terrible. Huge injury list before the season has started, we’ll be playing blokes like long and guelfi before too long

Absolutely infuriating for him to feed us a ■■■■■ sandwich and then say “oh but the positives are that we will have a fit and healthy team for round 1!”

I’m sorry Justin, were you not listening to yourself crap on for the previous 4 minutes, telling us how “well” our players are recovering from mostly avoidable injuries?

Laverde = Poor Management
McNeice = Poor Management / Unlucky
Fantasia = Really poor management
Myers = Perennially injured / inevitable
Colyer = Verging on perennially injured
Mutch = Poor Management
Ambrose = Unlucky

Like others have said, he was good managing loads last year and keeping our guys healthy.

But he is off to a shocking start to this season and it could mean our season is over before it has even begun.

He’ll be under the microscope by supporters this year after the way the year has started.

[Finding_Nino]

I don’t understand how we sturggle against the Crows when they play a high scoring brand footy if anything it should suit us.

[SplitRound]

It’s high scoring for them, typically not for their opponents. They don’t play shootouts.

[WesternDon]

I’m sorry but there is just no way, even if you were qualified and with a wealth of experience such as Crow, you are able to put anything down to poor/really poor management based on the information given or supplied to the public.

[barnz]

Laverde tightness reported week before injury. Same with raz.

[WesternDon]

If an AFL-level conditioning coach clears a player’s tightness with all the information at hand and stakes well known then I back his judgement over our ill-informed opinions made in hindsight, which, are easy to be fuelled by the disappointment of losing said player.

[Maxx]

I thought it was a bell chamber

[aboods]

Getting pretty annoying to hear crow say how well things are going even though we have 9-10 blokes injured and a game hasn’t been played yet.

Crow did a good job last year but things are not going great thus far this year.

Obviously collision injuries or breaks like Gleeson and ambrose are hard to avoid but the laverde situation was one which appeared to be mismanaged.

I reckon it’s 8 guys at most.

Ambrose
Fanta
Myers
McNeice
Laverde
Gleeson
Mutch
Colyer

Anyone else?

Of those, Mutch and Laverde started training with the main group today, so you’d think they’re only a couple of weeks away. You’d also hope Fanta, Myers and McNeice are all available by round 2 or 3.

It’s not ideal but it’s nothing disastrous.
Arguably Myers and McNeice have been well managed by getting scans and keeping them out this week. Maybe they have learnt from the Laverde situation.

Considering the good run we had in 2016 & 2017, I think the fitness staff have earnt a bit of slack for a little while.

[Wanderlust]

Crowe said he is good to go.

Great news then!!

[aboods]

What have we had

Colyer - no pre season R6 at best
Mutch - lost most of his preseason gains R3-5
Ridley - no pre season R3-5
Lav - lost most of his preseason gains R4-6
Fantasia - missed the last bit R2-4?
Ambrose - impact injury R4-8
Gleeson - impact R15-16 at best
McNeice - not ready R1
Myers - not ready R1
Hooker - missed a bit of preseason?
Hurley - missed a big chunk of preseason
TBell - think he missed a bit too.

Any more?

Lav looks like a missmanagement. Interesting that all three were immediate scans yesterday. I’d say they are not going to let a player call tightness and guess anymore. As it’s ruined another season start for Lav.

Allot of talk about it being a real tough preseason, hopefully not too tough that we have broken them again.

Ridley played the last VFL practice match. He’s available now.

[SplitRound]

I’m sorry but there is just no way, even if you were qualified and with a wealth of experience such as Crow, you are able to put anything down to poor/really poor management based on the information given or supplied to the public.

To be fair, we can’t put any part of any performance of any football club down to poor management (or good management for that matter) based on the information that is supplied to the public. And yet here we are.

Edit: for the record, I’ll be waiting a lot longer before I start worrying about our physical conditioning department. We’re nowhere near the 2012 gold standard.

[barnz]

If an AFL-level conditioning coach clears a player’s tightness with all the information at hand and stakes well known then I back his judgement over our ill-informed opinions made in hindsight, which, are easy to be fuelled by the disappointment of losing said player.

this old chest nut.

close the forum.

[WesternDon]

It’s not about shutting down opinion or being naive, the post already conceded how well he’s done with loads based on injury tolls in the past so it was agreed he had a good record. Nothing changed other than increased expectations on this season and the resultant level disappointment when a player finally goes down.

Players ping hammys, ■■■■ happens

[Klawdy]

rampart

noun
1.
a defensive wall of a castle or walled city, having a broad top with a walkway and typically a stone parapet.

Edit: I knew as I hit enter I’d get the joke. Don’t mind me.