There are whole suburbs and areas in Sydney where there is no parking at your premises and you reserve a park in your area but still could be up to a 1km from your property. My brother had one at Newtown when he lived there. I think eventually most workplaces will have onsite charges which will help many people with no access to car charging at home
Wow. I would think this would not be the case for the vast majority.
There are whole suburbs and LGAās like this in Sydney. He paid about $200 per year for a parking permit in his area and that allows you to park in the street anywhere within that area. Trouble is I think he said there were something like 3-4,000 permits in his area meaning some nights when he got home he might park within 200m of home but the next day he might have to drive around all the back streets to find a vacant park and that he could end up 1km away from home. He was always forgetting where he parked the night before 
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That problem would be multiplied if he had been on the sauce the night before.
This problem is offset entirely from charging at home TBH.
The amount of time you save not having to pull into a servo and just plug in at home is a lot bigger than I thought it was prior to owning an EV.
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As I said that works for my wife but not for me.
She only does short trips.
I use mine a bit for longer stints so Iāll probably hold off until technology catches up
I agree to this.
Im one of those people who cant charge from home. But if i could even drip fed at a slooow rate id buy one.
As long as your parked long enough at home to top up what you use each day/week.
Just impossible to get power to my carspace without tens of thousands of dollars of infrastructure rewiring my complex
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Itās amazing how the blind EV evangelists canāt see this. āWhat, you plebs canāt charge your vehicle at home?ā
An EV is really useful for the suburban guy with a DLUG and solar on the roof. Doing a bunch of kilometres driving for work.
They make a heap of sense if thatās your life
Even without solar given a lot of recharging is overnight offpeak
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So if EV drivers tell you about their experience then we are somehow evangelical. Perhaps like those who spruiked Holden vs Ford etc in the past.
I reckon EV drivers completely understand about importance of home charging. I seriously doubt I would have my Tesla if didnāt have a charger in my garage.
We further understand that EV is not for everyone. What I do not understand is why there are so many people totally negative to EV as a new and now proven technology, who take every opportunity to criticise and spread the many lies being told. Maybe it is either jealousy or fear of the unknown.
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I think its a pisstake that EVs are about saving the environment.
Not driving is saving the environment. Taking the bus or train or riding a push bike is saving the environment.
Big tech in general is an absolute ā ā ā ā ā ā ā disaster for the environment.
Just today I was thinking how from cryptocurrency with energy needs equivalent to that of a small country, to expanding rare earth and other mines for battery technology in things like EVs and other vehicles electronics, to simply the handover cost of technological obsolence. Which is a built in business model.
Its all one giant ā ā ā ā take.
The environments ā ā ā ā ā ā and new consumer technology is not making it better anytime soon.
I mean is anyone excited for a new mobile phone or 8k TV?
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EVs extend beyond the PMV to PT, on farm and industry vehicles, EV taxis/ Uber and ambulances.
I dont doubt.
But for example if you werent planning on buying a new car, but the idea of an EV makes you want too. If they didnt exist you would probably potter along in the same old car you have driven for years.
Im not sure it that improves the outlook for the environment as much as people think.
Instead choosing to not drive. Or go from 2 cars to 1 or carshare etc.
Those sorts of choices imho have a greater positive environmental impact.
EVs simply because they are new and shiny prompting a purchase on something you otherwise wouldnt have got is not necessarily a choice thats good for the environment
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I didnāt buy an EV for any environmental reason. It was a pure financial decision, as it costs me less to run by a great deal. I traded in my existing Lexus and the changeover cost was small.
That said though, my car was previously powered by fossil fuel, and now it is solar powered, so the environment is in front no matter how small.
A second hand EV market will develop over time.
With depleted batteries that require replacement and technology that is rapidly advancing in new cars it will make second hand electric vehicles very ācheapā to purchase
I donāt understand this sentiment that the batteries on EVās will need replacing after a few years. Where has this come from? Are there so many examples of this being the case that I have missed?
I think its like any second hand car. The risk is that the previous owner didnt maintain it and/or treated it in a way that is detrimental to long life.
At least with EVās there are ways to check the battery health via car app/software.
The batteries are generally guaranteed for 8 years and Iām not seeing huge fail rates before or even after that timeframe.
If the car is charged as per the specific battery chemistry best practice guidelines, the battery will outlast the life of the car. Second hand ICE cars are the biggest crap shoot yet EVās (which are more reliable and require virtually no maintenaince) are seen as worthless and too risky? I just donāt get it.
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Yeah so 8 years ago is 2016
If buy a 2016 model car
I think the idea is more along the lines of more modern cars becoming available in the future. In 2016 there were close enough to no EVās being sold in Australia. Since then the momentum is growing and battery tech is a lot better.
Just because a warranty period has lapsed doesnāt mean the product will cease to work. If this were the case there would be no ICE cars out of the guarantee period being sold or still working.
Looking at carsalesā¦ EV cars from 2016 or older are mainly tesla model S. 97 cars total for sale. Here is a random comment on a 2014 model that has done 150,000 kms:
"This Tesla 85D achieves 390 km real-world range (data and graphs available on request) with the battery capacity at nearly 90% of what it was brand new!"
Okā¦ so after 10 years, 15,000km per year travel its battery is at just under 90% capacity. It would be degrading by less than 1% per year (probably closer to 0.5% per year now as batteries tend to degrade more in the first couple of years).
The cool thing about buying a 2nd hand EV is that this battery data is available. You cant get that info on the health of an engine reliably without spending time and money on a mechanic.
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Itās also interesting looking at ICE car stats where the average engine lasts 8 to 10 years on average. Interesting.