Agree with Noonan.
Tim should have won the Brownlow in 1989.
From memory, Paul Couch won it…fkn bullsh*t.
Tim was a devastating player to watch.
Fk he was quick and powerful, and could kick a long ball at pace.
I love Jobe, but he’ll need a few more seasons at a high level to reach his dad.
Having said that, they are different players, with different attributes.
About 99.5% of AFL footballers haven’t been even nearly as good as Tim Watson
The flogs at the AGE only gave Jobe 7 votes for their player of the year award, the lowest of all the bog’s from the round. They also gave Lindsey Thomas 7 from that game too. Farkheads
The flogs at the AGE only gave Jobe 7 votes for their player of the year award, the lowest of all the bog's from the round. They also gave Lindsey Thomas 7 from that game too. Farkheads
that was so wrong, it was not believable.
Thomas kicked four goals but did he really do much else?
And in my opinion, Tim was robbed of the 1989 Brownlow. Umpires didn't start giving him votes until he had about 15 in most media awards.
Thought that 1980 was Tim's year for the brownlow. People need to understand that Tim had two outstanding qualites better than Jobe - Tim was seriously quick and is a better kick. Can say that Jobe is a better accumulator. Tim is the best player I have seen in Essendon colors.
I said 1989 and I meant 1989. He ran high in 1980, but behind Merv Neagle, and I don't recall if he was in the favourites or not.
He was definitely highly favored in 1980,though more favored in 1989. Neagle was a big surprise in 1980.
Best argument yet.Tim is better because he gave us 307 games, , 4 b&fs, 3 premiership and Jobe Watson. Until Jobe gives us a son as good as dad then he will always be lacking.
tick tock jobe. marry ella already and get cracking. or just get cracking. either way.
In the team ofent the century run by the old Sun newspaper Tim was nominated for the position of ruck - rover, but Barassi got th were the nod ahead of him for obvious reasons. No one else was considered for the position, they were the only 2 nominees. Jobe still has a way to go to reach that level.
The flogs at the AGE only gave Jobe 7 votes for their player of the year award, the lowest of all the bog's from the round. They also gave Lindsey Thomas 7 from that game too. Farkheads
Absolute joke!
Jobe is hands down a better leader though!!!
Jobe is hands down a better leader though!!!
Not a better captain than Darren Glass... apparently.
Those of us old enough to remember …in 1985 Tim was clearly the best footballer in the land and had been for 2 years at that stage. Jobe has been up in the top 3 in the land for 2 - 3 years now but has been overshadowed by Gary Ablett.
Another brownlow and a premiership this year as Captain might just balance the ledger !
I saw a majority of Tim’s games (likewise with Jobe) and he was more explosive than his son. He would grab the ball and tear down the wing brushing opponents aside having an electrifying effect on the crowd and his team.
Tim went from a very good player on debut to a star to a super star of the competition.
As we know, Jobe took a few years to get to the very good category and then to the star category, to one of the leading players in the competition.He has a few more years up his sleeve to determine where he sits on the comparative bench.
Tim for mine at the moment.
I found an article about the Watsons written in 2003. By Caroline Wilson. What happened over the last 11 years to make her hate us?
Watsons show it's still a family game
By Caroline Wilson
June 29, 2003
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<p class="">James Hird with Jobe Watson. <br><i>Picture: Vince Caligiuri</i></p>
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Not since the two Ted Whittens so poignantly merged fatherhood and football in Ted snr's final lap of the MCG eight years ago has the football family witnessed publicly such an emotional father and son story.
Jobe Watson's debut for Essendon on Friday night was the event a football-starved public had been waiting for. The son of an Essendon champion whose face so strongly resembled his father's, playing under the same coach and alongside some of Tim's premiership teammates.
And, from the start to the finish, the Watson family delivered. Essendon has endured an occasionally difficult relationship with the media in recent years for shielding its players behind Kevin Sheedy but the club was sensible enough to realise the public could not get enough of Jobe Watson and his smile.
If the middle part of the story - the game itself - demonstrated that the teenager still has much to prove, it was equally obvious that football holds no fear for him. He looked as though he belonged and his humble humour after the game was endearing. Watching him stand alongside James Hird was a better advertisement for the AFL than two years of Campaign Palace commercials.
The Whitten story made us cry because it was about an end. The Watson story is about a new beginning but it also came attached to tragedy because Tim's brother Larry, a former Bomber, lost his son Jake last year and Jake, too, had dreamt of running out with Essendon.
Tim Watson could not bear the distraction of calling his son's first game but must have had a long night of it, just as Jobe has had a long week. His radiant grin after the match probably had as much to do with relief as it did with his club's much-needed victory.
As a regular media performer, Watson snr has written for The Age about his son's debut and discussed it extensively on TV and radio. That he was just another face in the crowd two nights ago was a brilliant reminder of how quickly the football timeclock passes.
But Watson's public pride has neither been pushy nor boastful and because he has clearly handled his son's rise to AFL selection in such an even-handed, sensible manner, the example of the father's wisdom has been there for all to learn from.
All over Melbourne on Friday, folk were referring to it as the Jobe Watson game, but you never got the impression that the pressure would become ugly.
Instead, parents and their children around Victoria had an extra spring in their step and sat glued to the game on the night, willing Jobe's first possession.
Afterwards, I suspect, fathers and sons everywhere were handballing cushions around their living rooms well after midnight. Perhaps the parks on Saturday, too, boasted more kick-to-kicks than usual.
The match was a massive boon also for Channel Nine and Telstra Dome. The Wayne Carey showdown against the Kangaroos in early May was orchestrated for Friday night football but Nine could not have dreamed of the emotional circumstances when the Kangaroos (and Jason McCartney) took on Richmond, nor young Watson's debut this weekend.
A crowd of almost 50,000 turned up for a game between two bottom-eight sides - the biggest attendance for an Essendon-Geelong match in four years. It's a family game, after all, and the Watson family presented football with a lasting gift on Friday night.
Tim Watson is an Age columnist and works with Caroline Wilson on Channel Seven's Talking Footy.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/06/28/1056683950398.html
he's such a dreamboat :wub:
I saw a majority of Tim's games (likewise with Jobe) and he was more explosive than his son. He would grab the ball and tear down the wing brushing opponents aside having an electrifying effect on the crowd and his team.
Tim went from a very good player on debut to a star to a super star of the competition.
As we know, Jobe took a few years to get to the very good category and then to the star category, to one of the leading players in the competition.He has a few more years up his sleeve to determine where he sits on the comparative bench.
Tim for mine at the moment.
Why did Tim never win a Brownlow? I always wondered. I was 3 when he retired.
First half yes. Second no, think he only touched it four times.Thomas kicked four goals but did he really do much else?
Not sure why Michael Tuck was not considered. I was always aware that he was considered the big V's no 1 ruck rover until later in his career. Used to sh*t me.how he would take game saving marks and just pop up when the chips were down. I was very happy when Timmy finally got the crown when Tuck began to fade and Tim was at his peakIn the team ofent the century run by the old Sun newspaper Tim was nominated for the position of ruck - rover, but Barassi got th were the nod ahead of him for obvious reasons. No one else was considered for the position, they were the only 2 nominees. Jobe still has a way to go to reach that level.
Gets better with age this guy. Defines the word captain. How can you not be inspired by the performances this guy puts on?
Jobe is a guest starring on the Footy Show tonight. One of the best spoken captains in the AFL.