Another great write up. Much respect to Graham Cornes!Shat all over that Warner piece. Either that was cut & pasted horrendously, or was the most hard to follow writing I think I’ve read from anyone over 11 years old.
Felt like I was reading a set of random slightly related tweets. ■■■■■■ awful.
Only because it included all the photo captions and links to other articles that I couldn’t be bothered deleting.
Don't u/stand people getting all angsty about naming who this wife of a Judge woman is.If anyone knows for sure, or just has a fair idea, what’s the problem with posting your info, or idea?
Why would anyone worry about protecting her, or speculating on who she is?
It’s fking good enough for every other clown on the web or in the media to cast aspersions far & wide with zero evidence, but we here get our panties in a twist over stating a fact?
Over naming & shaming this twisted harpie, who clearly needs a good dressing down herself, and put to shame for her holier than thou public rant?
If you know who it was, just say so. WTF?
I can’t agree more!
Don't u/stand people getting all angsty about naming who this wife of a Judge woman is.If anyone knows for sure, or just has a fair idea, what’s the problem with posting your info, or idea?
Why would anyone worry about protecting her, or speculating on who she is?
It’s fking good enough for every other clown on the web or in the media to cast aspersions far & wide with zero evidence, but we here get our panties in a twist over stating a fact?
Over naming & shaming this twisted harpie, who clearly needs a good dressing down herself, and put to shame for her holier than thou public rant?
If you know who it was, just say so. WTF?
I can’t agree more!
Me too / ridiculing Hirdy at a party means she’s quite happy for the world to know who she is and what a low life she is.
You would just want to be absolutely sure that you name the correct person, and not speculate on who it ‘might’ be.
The person being mentioned doesn’t add up to me. For a start, she would have more sense than to do something like that. Every other ex or current AFL Commission member has kept their mouth shut on this issue. (Aside from Fitzpatrick. )
At least if its NOT the governor, let us know that we’re barking up the wrong tree…
Another great write up. Much respect to Graham Cornes!Shat all over that Warner piece. Either that was cut & pasted horrendously, or was the most hard to follow writing I think I’ve read from anyone over 11 years old.
Felt like I was reading a set of random slightly related tweets. ■■■■■■ awful.
Only because it included all the photo captions and links to other articles that I couldn’t be bothered deleting.
Not a go at you and thanks for posting the article.
The HS article reads like they just had to get something out there, whereas Graham Cornes article is from the heart.
THANK YOU Graham Cornes (and thank you for justifying my position that every single one of them, media, anonymous comment makers etc are all complicit).
A blog from “steven”. I don’t know who he is but he couldn’t have written a better piece.
https://scarcesense.wordpress.com/2017/01/07/a-divisive-figure/
It has been common following latest developments in the tragedy of James Hird to preface any discussion with the acknowledgement that he is a ‘divisive figure’. Many have rushed to point out that whether you ‘love him, or hate him’, you should have the decency to look beyond his ‘mistakes’ and treat him as a human being.
Such comments, while superficially appearing to be well meaning, only further entrench the misconceptions that have created the predicament in which Hird currently finds himself.
Hird is not a ‘divisive figure’, at least not under any reasonable assessment of the facts. Sure there will be many who hate his mere existence – probably jealous Collingwood or Hawthorn supporters, but in direct relation to The Saga negative opinions of James Hird are wholly without merit, as are the casual allusions to his ‘mistakes’ as though they were mere mundane facts that couldn’t possibly be contested.
It was decided from the very beginning that Hird would be sacrificed ‘for the greater good of the game’. His only crime was to have integrity and to stand up: for himself, for his players, for his club, for the truth, and to challenge those who foolishly sought to orchestrate an outcome over which they never had any control.
When a desperate AFL House deployed vile propaganda to finally force Hird into submission and accept an unjust punishment, he agreed to nothing. He didn’t plead guilty, for there was nothing of which he could be guilty, so instead he plead ‘present’.
Hird’s irrelevance to the supplements program was supported by all lines of evidence, and as such he was not pursued in any of the anti-doping cases: not by the AFL, not by ASADA, and not by WADA.
Furthermore, it is acknowledged that Hird’s role within the club meant that he was not ‘in the top 20 or 30 people’ responsible for the program. He was not a sports scientist. He was not a chemist or medical expert. He was not even in the high performance department. He didn’t hire the staff. He didn’t write the cheques. He possessed no technical knowledge nor direct input into the program or the substances. Yet despite all this he became the convenient high-profile face to the saga.
Of those more responsible, some received cushy appointments and business opportunities, others lavish payouts, while yet more disappeared silently into the night. None were punished, with the exception of Stephen Dank, who was only ever adjudged guilty for deeds outside his work at Essendon.
Hird’s perceived evils are confined to grossly misinformed public opinion, directed by AFL House and its dishonest, or plain incompetent, media contingent.
To constantly speak of Hird’s failings, or advance the notion that hating him is a perfectly reasonable position for one to hold, is to reinforce the public ignorance that must be corrected to restore Hird’s mental well being.
There is a vital distinction between typical mental health issues, that can affect anyone at any time and without cause, and finally crumbling under the weight of a coordinated and sustained campaign to destroy one’s life that has endured for four years and counting.
A great man; honest, loyal and caring to a fault, a champion on and off field, has been discarded, ostracised, vilified and abandoned by those he once counted as friends and colleagues. His once impeccable reputation has been destroyed without cause, or a shred of remorse from the perpetrators (or their spineless colleagues who claim to be better but consistently failed to hold their colleagues to account). Hird has been exiled from his profession, passion and livelihood. He has lost connection with his club that has been his life since birth. And throughout the entire ordeal worthless parasites masquerading as professionals have been camped on his front lawn harassing the man and his family in a shameful practice that has persisted even after Hird’s hospitalisation.
There are some within football who will not be happy until James Hird is dead, and they may get their wish. Mental health is fragile and once fractured sometimes it may never be fully restored. Perhaps his issues can be treated, but the answer is not drugs, or therapy. In this particular case, the factors in his decline are entirely environmental. To restore Hird’s health his persecution must cease, and that starts by apologising and correcting the public record, not by pretending to care while reinforcing the cause.
Thanks for posting TeeBee and THANKS for writing it Steven.
Probably none of the media people this is aimed at will read it, if they do they won’t see themselves as part of it as they have a tendency to refer to themselves in third person when anything is directed at them.
Somewhere, in a darkened corner of a quiet room a retired lonely Rodeo Clown, with face painted, fiddles with a million dollar cheque. Not far away in a dark dank dungeon a mad biochemist fiddles with a broken gate latch.
Both are thinking how lucky they are.
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That fellow, @scarce_sense on twitter, has written quite a number of good pieces on the saga some time back. Think he hasn’t had much to say about AFL over the past couple of years. Can’t say I blame him
Never liked GT as a coach but once the AFL kicked him out of their system and lost control of him, he has been a useful commentator
Never liked GT as a coach but once the AFL kicked him out of their system and lost control of him, he has been a useful commentator
I reckon someone in his position who doesn’t give a fark about string-pullers and career makers is more than a useful commentator.
Can we be 100% sure it actually is Dessau before we rush out and grab the pitch forks, please?It can’t be that hard… It was in public. There have been posts on here by people who seem to have known about it - If it isn’t Dessau they just need to say “not her”. If anyone knows they can say… “it was … (allegedly)” or “a source close to someone who attended the party told me it was…” Two common ways for the media to get their message across!
I would love to know who it was so that my feelings of disrespect and dislike can be aimed at the right person… Why the ■■■■ should she be protected?sigh
Does the last 4 years mean nothing?The last 4 years have meant a ■■■■■■■ lot! Why should the person who publicly humiliated James Hird be not named?
You can’t see through your anger and hatred and what you are after is the result of a person being publicly shamed, regardless of how it happens, is all I’m saying.
Yeah…
But…
[sob]
[sob]
They did it to us first…
Feel like I need to do something- how about we all send cards/letters, with not only our heartfelt wishes but our stories of how important James has been to us- I am not on social media & prefer the good old fashioned way. I don't know his address but guess if the press can find it that hopefully I can too. Maybe could post to the club to be forwarded?? Thoughts?His birthday is in a months time.
I’d happily contribute to a full page ‘happy birthday from your fans’ message in The Age if it was a goer.Then you’d be assured it was noticed.
I strongly doubt James Hird reads The Age.
And neither do I anymore
Can we be 100% sure it actually is Dessau before we rush out and grab the pitch forks, please?
Can we be 100% sure it actually is Dessau before we rush out and grab the pitch forks, please?Exactly
The story here is not the terribly unfortunate situation James finds himself in - it's the actions of those that put him there. Guilt ridden
— Grant Thomas (@Thomo_Grant) January 6, 2017
I like the way the AFL have come out with a statement of support and concern for James - NOT! Notably absent. Can we get some media at polo?
— Grant Thomas (@Thomo_Grant) January 6, 2017
Time for AFL to provide some very factual, truthful "yes" or "no" answers 2 some simple questions that remain unanswered. Brand is secondary
— Grant Thomas (@Thomo_Grant) January 6, 2017
There is 1 reason AFL has not commented, 1 reason alone; its called hypocrisy. They r perplexed about supporting a guy they nailed to cross
— Grant Thomas (@Thomo_Grant) January 6, 2017
Polo, couta boat racing, wineries, horse racing, cricket, tennis - there is plenty on to keep the execs busy.
— Grant Thomas (@Thomo_Grant) January 6, 2017
AFL flatly deny any involvement in blocking Hird's return to media at SEN. I seem to remember that exact scenario happening before?
The three Hird sons now play soccer. :(That is tragic.
Thats the worst part of the whole thing…
Who cares.
Haha. Possibly. Hird's a ManUtd fan if that means anything. So chances are the boys are as well. Urgh.
A Hird scoring at the theatre of dreams.
Can we be 100% sure it actually is Dessau before we rush out and grab the pitch forks, please?It can’t be that hard… It was in public. There have been posts on here by people who seem to have known about it - If it isn’t Dessau they just need to say “not her”. If anyone knows they can say… “it was … (allegedly)” or “a source close to someone who attended the party told me it was…” Two common ways for the media to get their message across!
I would love to know who it was so that my feelings of disrespect and dislike can be aimed at the right person… Why the ■■■■ should she be protected?sigh
Does the last 4 years mean nothing?The last 4 years have meant a ■■■■■■■ lot! Why should the person who publicly humiliated James Hird be not named?
You can’t see through your anger and hatred and what you are after is the result of a person being publicly shamed, regardless of how it happens, is all I’m saying.
I don’t have hatred… I am frustrated at the injustice of it all. Angry - yes but what Essendon supporter isn’t?
The last 4 years obviously doesn’t mean anything to the woman who chose a xmas gathering to humiliate and further attack a champion of our club… I am disgusted by her actions.