can we change the title to “James hird sacked?”
its clear he hasnt resigned. I feel like this heading is what paul little and the board would want… when we know it wasnt the case.
Never hire a club legend as coach. It always has to end
I wouldn’t say never.
But everything needs to be handled more delicately.
Even this exit (sacking or resignation) could have been handled a lot better.
One thing the club has finally been able to do after ten parking years…
It was known last night that he handed in his resignation.
It took until 1pm today (only a few hours before the press conference) for it to come out. And usually there are small hints on twitter. Nothing about it. Even CJohns was none the wiser.
I love how the media talk about relief for the club
it’s not like they are announcing WADA is over
Those thinking of tossing in their memberships...I've got a ■■■■■■ essendon tattoo. What am i going to do!LOL.
I wasn’t far away from that myself.
Sozzles.
Got it 2 days after 2000 GF.
1. James Hird resigned Yes he did, that is what he said however you need to read what he really said:“On Monday night I agreed to tender my resignation to the Essendon Football Club,”
You see, he agreed to resign which means someone was asking him too. The club knew the fallout if they “sacked” Hird so they encouraged him to resign “in the interest of the club and players”.
- Little is also to resign
Yes that is what James said:“It was the board’s opinion that the football club would never be free of the ASADA scandals while Paul and I were here.”
So James AND Paul were to resign but Paul is refusing to go UNTIL the Asaga crap is over. So Paul really isn’t resigning as the board wants, he is staying until he is good and ready to go.
I know which one of the two people above is the most honourable person.
And for those who said the board may not be involved, read James again.
A typical little deal - always pays to read the fine print.
1. James Hird resigned Yes he did, that is what he said however you need to read what he really said:“On Monday night I agreed to tender my resignation to the Essendon Football Club,”
You see, he agreed to resign which means someone was asking him too. The club knew the fallout if they “sacked” Hird so they encouraged him to resign “in the interest of the club and players”.
- Little is also to resign
Yes that is what James said:“It was the board’s opinion that the football club would never be free of the ASADA scandals while Paul and I were here.”
So James AND Paul were to resign but Paul is refusing to go UNTIL the Asaga crap is over. So Paul really isn’t resigning as the board wants, he is staying until he is good and ready to go.
I know which one of the two people above is the most honourable person.
And for those who said the board may not be involved, read James again.
Well, you can’t very well ask the Board to consider if you’re still the right guy going forward and then say “no” if the Board agrees the players/club will only get clear air if you go. You would be contradicting yourself. the fact you pose the question to start says you have doubts about being the right person for the job going forward.
Never hire a club legend as coach. It always has to endCan people like you that wanted Hird out from the get go lay of a little before harping in with your not required 2 cents?
I have the utmost respect for Hird and the way that he has gone about this. We needed him to walk away and he did. I have only wanted him to go since the st kilda loss
can we change the title to "James hird sacked?"its clear he hasnt resigned
Not true he did resign. He could have said no and forced the baords hand but he didn’t want to do that, he didn’t want to create further issues so fell on his sword like an honourable person does (unlike Little). He was pushed, yes, but he did actually resign.
Our players, coach, club and supporters have been bullied and humiliated for three years because they dared to entertain the thought we were innocent and had the audacity to expect a fair investigation.**** all other supporters, the AFL, the other head coaches and Carlton.
**** times.
This
So Hirdy asked the board if the club could be treated fairly while he was still coach. Instead of getting behind the man, standing up for him, they tell him it would be easier for the club without him. Which of course is probably true, but sort of club is this? What sort of message does that send? Who wants to support a club that wont stand up and support itself and its legends.
This football club has lost it Morals. Lost what makes a football club great in the first place. It has lost its heart and lost its soul. Now the EFC is nothing more then another money generating organisation. An organisation run by the AFL. One of the most corrupt organisations in this country.
James Hird was not the Heart and Soul of the football club. But he did give his very own Heart and Soul to the club. He was one of its champions and the very example of what made our club great. He kept fighting when the chips where down, when no one else would. On and off the field.
These spineless ■■■■■■ would not give the man the backing and support he needed. Even though James himself has told us to stand behind the club and unite. I can’t stand behind a club the will not stand up for one of its own champions, for itself and by definition its very own Heart and soul.
Goodbye.
Micahel Hibberd
Tom Bellchambers
Paul Chapman
Jobe Watson
Brent Stanton
Joe Daniher
Zach Merrett
Jason Winderlich
Brendan Goddard
Nick O’Brian
David Zaharakis
Mark Baguley
Adam Cooney
Jason Ashby
Courtenay Dempsey
Tayte Pears
Jake Melksham
Michael Hurley
Shaun Edwards
Jackson Merrett
Dyson Heppell
Jake Carlisle
David Myers
Alex Browne
Ariel Stienberg
Cale Hooker
Jon Giles
Elliott Kavanagh
Patrick Ambrose
Kyle Langford
Dustin Fletcher
Trav Colyer
Jayden Laverde
Jake Long
Marty Gleeson
Lachy Dalgliesh
Nick Kommer
Heath Hocking
Ben Howlett
Willbur Hams
James Gwilt
Kurt Aylett
S Mack
Connor McKenna
Raz
Don’t walk away from them supporters. They deserve the best supporters on the planet.
Don’t walk away from them.
Never hire a club legend as coach. It always has to endCan people like you that wanted Hird out from the get go lay of a little before harping in with your not required 2 cents?
I have the utmost respect for Hird and the way that he has gone about this. We needed him to walk away and he did. I have only wanted him to go since the st kilda loss
Still, lay off it man. People are hurting.
Never hire a club legend as coach. It always has to endI wouldn’t say never.
But everything needs to be handled more delicately.
Even this exit (sacking or resignation) could have been handled a lot better.One thing the club has finally been able to do after ten parking years…
It was known last night that he handed in his resignation.
It took until 1pm today (only a few hours before the press conference) for it to come out. And usually there are small hints on twitter. Nothing about it. Even CJohns was none the wiser.
Marketing team was asked to put three scenarios together after the st kilda loss, only one of those scenarios had Hird staying.
can we change the title to "James hird sacked?"its clear he hasnt resigned
Not true he did resign. He could have said no and forced the baords hand but he didn’t want to do that, he didn’t want to create further issues so fell on his sword like an honourable person does (unlike Little). He was pushed, yes, but he did actually resign.
this is gonna be like the old sheedy “contract not renewed” argument, innit?
Await the players response.AFL360 will be interesting viewing tonight with BJ on…
And Robbo is in fine form.
Very annoyed at how things have unfolded.Tonight’s show is one you’d want to be watching.
For those of us without Foxtel can we get some cliff notes?
As soon as its on the SEN website, I’ll post the link.
Was a lot of waffling going on. Very erratic. Felt like the moment in the JFK movie where they get confessions from David Ferry (Joe Pesci).
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Ouch, Rohan Connolly calling a spade a freaking shovel.
Essendon and James Hird: Club reduced to laughing stock
August 18, 2015 - 3:59PM
Rohan Connolly
Senior AFL writer for The Age
Essendon is a former power of the AFL competition right now reduced to little more than a laughing stock both on and off the field.
Essendon’s administrators might as well have spent the past few years standing outside their new high performance centre at Tullamarine throwing wads of cash into the breeze.
If a series of on-field humiliations haven’t been bad enough, those running the club continue to make decisions bordering on farcical. James Hird’s departure as coach is just another.
On Tuesday, they terminated a coach still with a year left on his contract, after effectively paying him not to coach in 2014. A coach who replaced a predecessor in Matthew Knights also paid out for not completing the final two years on his contract. This follows millions of dollars spent on the legal ramifications of the drawn-out supplements saga.
Essendon’s administrators might as well have spent the past few years standing outside their new high performance centre at Tullamarine throwing wads of cash into the breeze. And the damage done to the club’s reputation over the long-term could amount to far more even than that.
Just what do the Bombers stand for now? Apart from seemingly attempting to write their own football version of Fawlty Towers?
Is James Hird headed in the right direction? The powerful Essendonians have supported the club’s wide-ranging review as pressure builds for changes in the football department.
First they backed Hird. They agreed to a two-year contract extension as the original supplement saga club penalties were being handed down so he’d accept a 12-month suspension.
Then, when his fill-in Mark Thompson got the Bombers into last year’s finals, they made an in-principle decision to offload Hird but backed off, spooked by legal threats and supporter angst.
Essendon spent much energy re-affirming their support for Hird when the AFL anti-doping tribunal found in March that it was not comfortably satisfied the Essendon players took banned substances. Last week, they announced a rather vague “review” of all football operations.
The review had barely had time to commence before they did finally off-load their coach, three games before the end of the season. With the WADA appeal still hanging over their heads, player’s futures uncertain, any prospective long-term replacement for Hird is obviously taking an enormous gamble.
In terms of the supplement saga, Essendon has alternately cosied up to the AFL then made a big show of taking the league on. And the club’s public relations during the entire soap opera have been an incompetent joke, leaving their fans either ill-informed or uninformed.
This is a club for which the better part of 15 years has luxuriated in its reputation as an AFL heavyweight, refusing to make tough decisions and watching on as its status as such continued to slide.
Those responsible for this latest move will probably pat themselves on the back for what they will see as courageous and swift action. They’ll probably also desperately hope this will convince fans and foes alike that recovery from these depths is imminent.
But it’s not. And it won’t be until those who have allowed this once-proud club to degenerate into a sick joke have fallen on their swords. They’ve been able to serially avoid responsibility for this colossal mess. They certainly don’t deserve to once more.
There’s so much more Essendon need to do beyond getting rid of their coach to recover their reputation. In effect, this is ground zero.
And a good start from there, both with whoever the new man is, and whoever else comes into the fold, is to make sure they come from a club with better practices both on and off the field, one not tainted by scandal, ego, arrogance and lack of principle.
In effect, from anywhere but the Essendon Football Club.
Never hire a club legend as coach. It always has to endCan people like you that wanted Hird out from the get go lay of a little before harping in with your not required 2 cents?
I have the utmost respect for Hird and the way that he has gone about this. We needed him to walk away and he did. I have only wanted him to go since the st kilda loss
I have the utmost respect for you in the same sense…
it appears our fabric is not UV stable
Micahel Hibberd Tom Bellchambers Paul Chapman Jobe Watson Brent Stanton Joe Daniher Zach Merrett Jason Winderlich Brendan Goddard Nick O'Brian David Zaharakis Mark Baguley Adam Cooney Jason Ashby Courtenay Dempsey Tayte Pears Jake Melksham Michael Hurley Shaun Edwards Jackson Merrett Dyson Heppell Jake Carlisle David Myers Alex Browne Ariel Stienberg Cale Hooker Jon Giles Elliott Kavanagh Patrick Ambrose Kyle Langford Dustin Fletcher Trav Colyer Jayden Laverde Jake Long Marty Gleeson Lachy Dalgliesh Nick Kommer Heath Hocking Ben Howlett Willbur Hams James Gwilt Kurt Aylett S Mack Connor McKenna RazDon’t walk away from them supporters. They deserve the best supporters on the planet.
Don’t walk away from them.
They’ll be fine.
This club has sacked Goodes because they couldn’t cope with the constant booing and thought it would clear the air.