Key Position Forwards, blurring of the traditional CHF and FF roles?

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Key position refers to the players who create the play. Whether it's the tall timber in the goalsquare or the guy making 40 leads a quarter forcing the defenders to follow him up the ground. The fact that someone is very good at being a part of the play (i.e. crumbing) or exploiting the play (i.e. leading into the gaps created by the key position players) doesn't make them a key position player.

That’s why Alwyn Davey was a KPP but Luke Bruest isn’t.

But…if a defender ‘makes the play’, delivers to a forward, who initiated a lead, thereby ‘making a play’, who is the key???
If a Key Position Player role is a real thing, then what is the Key Position?
Oh my head…

To summarise the posts by Ealesy and Henry, “positions” dont actually exist in the forward line anymore, its a “forward group” comprising 2 key forwards and all the rest of them. Right ?

Any player who kicks a lot of goals could be called a “gun forward” so he doesnt have to be a key, doesnt have to play in a position, he just has to be one of the ones who successfully converts lots of forward plays into goals.

The word ‘key’ is obviously dangerous, see how it has started a totally unnecessary squabble. Change it for ‘important’ and all the argument goes away. Yes, words have power.

And, seriously, nobody should use the term KPP any more. It just leads to muddy thinking.

To summarise - this is modern footy, and positions only exist as far as media would like them too, so as to facilitate commentary and description.

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Key position refers to the players who create the play. Whether it's the tall timber in the goalsquare or the guy making 40 leads a quarter forcing the defenders to follow him up the ground. The fact that someone is very good at being a part of the play (i.e. crumbing) or exploiting the play (i.e. leading into the gaps created by the key position players) doesn't make them a key position player.

That’s why Alwyn Davey was a KPP but Luke Bruest isn’t.

But…if a defender ‘makes the play’, delivers to a forward, who initiated a lead, thereby ‘making a play’, who is the key???
If a Key Position Player role is a real thing, then what is the Key Position?
Oh my head…

It’s best when reading my posts to look for the less obvious meaning. In this case, the whole first paragraph was really just the setup for an Alwyn Davey joke. :slight_smile:

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Key position refers to the players who create the play. Whether it's the tall timber in the goalsquare or the guy making 40 leads a quarter forcing the defenders to follow him up the ground. The fact that someone is very good at being a part of the play (i.e. crumbing) or exploiting the play (i.e. leading into the gaps created by the key position players) doesn't make them a key position player.

That’s why Alwyn Davey was a KPP but Luke Bruest isn’t.

But…if a defender ‘makes the play’, delivers to a forward, who initiated a lead, thereby ‘making a play’, who is the key???
If a Key Position Player role is a real thing, then what is the Key Position?
Oh my head…

It’s best when reading my posts to look for the less obvious meaning. In this case, the whole first paragraph was really just the setup for an Alwyn Davey joke. :slight_smile:

It’s best, when reading my posts, to firstly consider what I say as an attempt at humour, and if not applicable, apply logic.

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A reply to: @Zebba regarding QuoteLink
Key position refers to the players who create the play. Whether it's the tall timber in the goalsquare or the guy making 40 leads a quarter forcing the defenders to follow him up the ground. The fact that someone is very good at being a part of the play (i.e. crumbing) or exploiting the play (i.e. leading into the gaps created by the key position players) doesn't make them a key position player.

That’s why Alwyn Davey was a KPP but Luke Bruest isn’t.

But…if a defender ‘makes the play’, delivers to a forward, who initiated a lead, thereby ‘making a play’, who is the key???
If a Key Position Player role is a real thing, then what is the Key Position?
Oh my head…

It’s best when reading my posts to look for the less obvious meaning. In this case, the whole first paragraph was really just the setup for an Alwyn Davey joke. :slight_smile:

It’s best, when reading my posts, to firstly consider what I say as an attempt at humour, and if not applicable, apply logic.

Logic? On an internet forum? You expect too much

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