WTF?
Wonât get Stringer
Hasnât even nominated us yet
We do need one more YOUNG ruck on the list, and this emptying of the rookie list creates the space for thatâŚ
I also am open to recycling a decent delistee from another club (eg. Menadue?)âŚI mean, Snelling is a retread, so theyâre not all badâŚ
I also like having an empty space for the mid season draftâŚits not like you cop that many injuries in the first half of the season that you run out of players!..and having that spot open for a Riccardi-type is worthwhile IMO as we approach a heavily-compromised draft at the end of next year.
I thought this was a list management discussion, how silly of me.
It is a list management discussion. I was discussing list management. Contracts are part of list management. And if a list manager thought it was a good idea to sign a player to a two year contract then delist him four months later without some extraordinarily bad act by the player, Iâd sack the list manager.
Yeah, not sure we are on the same page with this little exchange. Simply expressing a view on players I would not have on the list (note I am not the EFC list manager)
Interesting to do a best 22 from 2024 so any play who is currently 29 or over wonât be there.
F Tippa Stewart Fantasia (?traded)
HF Langford Daniher (?traded) Stringer
C Gleeson McKenna Cutler
HB Saad Francis Ridley
B Ambrose BZT Redman
Ruck Draper Shiel McGrath
Inter Parish Hepp Guelfi Smith
Other: Ham, Mosquito, Snelling, Mutch, Begley, Clarke, Hartley, Gown, Laverde, 2 Irish, Plus new draftees.
We are actually ok age wise, with lots of potential for new draftees
Maybe itâs just me, but even factoring in improvement that ^ is as depressing as hell.
Yeah there is a real lack of superstars!
Thatâs not a bad list.
With a couple of expected additions to strengthen it you get a forward line of
Walla Daniher Fantasia
Davey 1 Davey 2 Stringer
That should be exciting those who want more X factor, and appeal to traditionalists
between now and 2024 there has to be a big turnover - no way weâd have only current players as the best 22. At least a third should be gone.
Probably correct, but a fair amount of the position you could say have locked players like stringer, Shiel etc. kinda shows areas we need quality in.
True. In one way you look at the names and think yeah they are good and could stay, But they canât all be that good and still be keeping their spot.
What has been the turnover for a good side over 5 years?
Hopefully these list changes mean we are lifting the bar for what we expect of a listed player. Sure, you keep a few in for potential or growth or development, but there has to be clear criteria that says stay or go.
Could still be placed on the rookie list
Youâve left out Captain Merrett, in his Brownlow year, of all years!
Cutting Clarke and Long doesnât require any justification at all but the other two can be considered a little stiff.
I hope this is a clear indication that Rutten and Caracella have a particular player profile in mind and there is no sense developing players that donât fit that.
Woosha no doubt would have kept them for another five years without playing them.
Hmm, thatâs not that great, although it isnât terrible either. Given it wouldnât exactly be a surprise if all of Stewart, Fantasia, Daniher and Langford were gone by the end of next year, that kind of shafts your forward line.
Your midfield is missing Merrett and youâve got Parish and Smith on the bench, which is a good thing because personally I think anyone putting Gleeson and McKenna in the centre is asking a lot, and adding Cutler is then a laugh. I mean, really? You think McKenna, Gleeson and Cutler will be our best centreline available in four years? Because if so, lets just give up now.
The back line is the area of strength, especially when Gleeson and McKenna get moved back. Thin for depth on talls, which is why Iâd hope Hartley is kept. Obviously some of that depth would presumably come from new recruits.
So a revised position with the most at risk guys gone.
FF: Tippa . ??? . Stringer
HF: Langford . ??? . Smith
C: McGrath . Heppell . Merrett
R: Draper . Shiel . Parish
HB: Saad . Ambrose . McKenna
FB: Francis . Zerk . Redman
Inter: Gleeson, Snelling,
If JD does leave, we desperately need two more tall forwards or Gown & Stewart to make it, and more midfielders. I think a few look promising, but hell, I said the same on Mynott.
I donât think so
One way or another weâd have wanted/needed at least two live ND picks and 2 rookies
Retirements aside theyâve cut anyone uncontracted who was not likely to contribute to helping the senior team win games of footy in the now or near future.
In saying that Rutten would have a clear view on what type of player he wants also.
How many picks we taking to the draft? Seems a lot with not the strongest of hands