He has NO conscience, how could he have any regrets? May all your chickens come home to roost and poop down your chimney.Edited by me.
They got Hird, hence no regrets. If Hird had managed to stay Essendon coach he would have had plenty of regrets.
Stabby:
By posting that link, you may be being used, whether you like it or not ( just joking)
On the Hunt what’s new theme, might be time to update that 2010 ASC survey of ethical and integrity issues in Australian sport. Might not be a new issue, but attitudes have changed globally : governance, governance and ethics and integrity.
From: Bruce Francis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 3:35 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; Paul Tan ([email protected]); [email protected]; [email protected]; '[email protected]'; Bolt, Andrew ([email protected]); '[email protected]'; 'Bob O'Dea'; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Frank Wilson ([email protected]); [email protected]; Graham Cornes ([email protected]); [email protected]; Jon Pierik ([email protected]); '[email protected]'; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Landsberger, Sam ([email protected]) Subject: Old YellarMark Robinson is the worst kind of Journo, the guy who pretends to be your buddy while he schemes his next article against you. I will never listen to anything he has to say ever again. He epitomises everything that's wrong with the footy mediaMark
I heard your interview on SEN Radio. Nothing has changed. You are still talking garbage. You are still making comments that you can’t substantiate.
You said you didn’t believe James Hird really tried to take his own life. What evidence do you have to support your position?
Have you spoken to James or Tania or James’s mother or father or his aunties or his doctors? I thought not.
And then you went on to talk about your friend. If you are a friend of James’s, he needs to advertise for more.
Friends don’t let friends down. If you had written about the AFL, ASADA, Gillard government and Essendon board’s decision on 9 February 2013 to find Essendon guilty and James responsible, he would not be in the position he is in now.
If you had written about James’s job description; the Essendon organisation structure; the key clauses (21,222 and 23) of the Victorian OH&S Act; the AFL’s OH&S responsibilities; the Essendon board’s OH&S responsibilities; Paul Hamilton’s responsibilities; and ASADA’s corrupt behaviour in changing Ian Robson’s evidence about James’s responsibilities, James would not have been held responsible for what happened at Essendon, and he would not have been attacked the way he was. The despicable judge’s wife would not have been in a position to trash him at the party.
If you had attacked the AFL for breaching clauses 2.7 and 2.8 of the WADA Code, the AFL would have been held solely responsible for registering Stephen Dank to work with WADA affiliated athletes. The AFL caused the Dank problem, not Essendon or Hird.
Writing about the above issues may just help in James’s recovery. It’s not too late for you to admit that you did a rotten job. Print and explain the Essendon organisation structure. Describe James’s job description. Tell your readers that legally about 30 people had more responsibility for the players health and safety than James.
Until you do, stop big noting that you are a friend of James’s. As I said two years ago you are just Old Yellar lying on the rug in front of the fire while the AFL tickles your tummy.
Bruce Francis
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7,500 supporters Essendon saga could see government inquiry as Greg Hunt is presented new information http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-19/new-information-may-prompt-government-inquiry-into-essendon-saga/8284144?section=sportMinister Hunt says he is approaching the information with an open mind.
“I will respectfully consider the material, I won’t try to pre-empt it. I think that’s the right and proper thing for me to do.”
We need to appeal to the LNP blame Labor for everything. The entire saga was initiated by a desperate Labor government in big trouble in the polls
The Australian has picked up Tracey’s interview with the Sports Minister:
The Australian
12:00AM February 20, 2017
GREG DENHAM
Federal Sports Minister Greg Hunt is examining so-called new information on the Essendon drug saga that a pro-Essendon player group hopes will start a government inquiry.
In response, the AFL yesterday said it knew nothing of the latest claim.
“We’re not aware of any details,” league media boss Patrick Keane said.
The information was sent to Mr Hunt by the ‘‘Justice for the 34’’ campaign which is seeking to have the players’ guilty verdict, delivered in the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), overturned.
“I’ve had some material submitted to me,’’ Mr Hunt said yesterday.
‘‘ What I have done — and I think this is my duty — is to begin consideration and to seek advice on whether that contains any new or significant material not previously considered,” Mr Hunt told ABC’s The Ticket.
The ‘‘Justice for the 34’’ information now before the minister includes allegations that the players were denied natural justice and that evidence was withheld.
The group challenges the CAS process arguing the players should never have been tried twice for the same offence.
Mr Hunt says he is approaching the information with an open mind. “I will respectfully consider the material, I won’t try to pre-empt it,” he said.
“I think that’s the right and proper thing for me to do.”
Prior to Christmas, the group said they were writing to Australian senators calling for an inquiry.
One member of the group, Kim Sawyer, is a senior fellow from Melbourne University. He’s a well-known whistle blower and a specialist in governance.
The lobby group has campaigned for an inquiry into previous ASADA boss Ben McDevitt’s handling of the long-running case. McDevitt resigned from that role last month.
In response on the ABC as to whether Mr McDevitt quit or was pushed to leave the anti-doping body, Mr Hunt said: “No, no, he was preparing to leave prior to the change of minister and he informed me shortly afterwards that he’s had a three-year contract, his time was up, his intention was always to leave and so that was entirely his own choosing.”
Reporting a bit skewed in relation to reference that the objective of J34 is to have the CAS verdict overturned.
Hunt has a legal background and at one time was associate to the Chief Justice of the Federal Court. I would not expect him to be critical of Australian judicial processes , but he could cast a crtical eye over WADA/ CAS processes and the CAS report as well as its procedures which are not compatible with the Australian legal system. The Swiss legal system has acknowledged the deficiencies in its own system in relation to appeals from arbitration processes.
Hunt has a seat on WADA, he said he would use Australia’s influence. The CAS arbitration system is just one of many WADA rules that need an overhaul.
What is new globally - more evidence that the system is broke:
Russia FIFA Workd Cup Boss caught in new doping scandal
mailonsunday.co.uk
As BWAS pointed out , WADA can be bought with voluntary contributions. That is another angle for Hunt to consider.
The Australian has picked up Tracey's interview with the Sports Minister:The Australian 12:00AM February 20, 2017 GREG DENHAMFederal Sports Minister Greg Hunt is examining so-called new information on the Essendon drug saga that a pro-Essendon player group hopes will start a government inquiry.
In response, the AFL yesterday said it knew nothing of the latest claim.
“We’re not aware of any details,” league media boss Patrick Keane said.
The information was sent to Mr Hunt by the ‘‘Justice for the 34’’ campaign which is seeking to have the players’ guilty verdict, delivered in the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), overturned.
“I’ve had some material submitted to me,’’ Mr Hunt said yesterday.
‘‘ What I have done — and I think this is my duty — is to begin consideration and to seek advice on whether that contains any new or significant material not previously considered,” Mr Hunt told ABC’s The Ticket.
The ‘‘Justice for the 34’’ information now before the minister includes allegations that the players were denied natural justice and that evidence was withheld.
The group challenges the CAS process arguing the players should never have been tried twice for the same offence.
Mr Hunt says he is approaching the information with an open mind. “I will respectfully consider the material, I won’t try to pre-empt it,” he said.
“I think that’s the right and proper thing for me to do.”
Prior to Christmas, the group said they were writing to Australian senators calling for an inquiry.
One member of the group, Kim Sawyer, is a senior fellow from Melbourne University. He’s a well-known whistle blower and a specialist in governance.
The lobby group has campaigned for an inquiry into previous ASADA boss Ben McDevitt’s handling of the long-running case. McDevitt resigned from that role last month.
In response on the ABC as to whether Mr McDevitt quit or was pushed to leave the anti-doping body, Mr Hunt said: “No, no, he was preparing to leave prior to the change of minister and he informed me shortly afterwards that he’s had a three-year contract, his time was up, his intention was always to leave and so that was entirely his own choosing.”
McDevitt is no fool the minister he sucked up to on the WADA committee stood down in disgrace his case against Bruce Francis was thrown out & the new minister is not likely to be on his side …sure was time to get out …the public service are good at kicking out unsuitable people and making the public think it was all the person’s idea …or he could have used the other one …wanting to spend more time with the family!!!
What is new globally - more evidence that the system is broke: Russia FIFA Workd Cup Boss caught in new doping scandal mailonsunday.co.uk As BWAS pointed out , WADA can be bought with voluntary contributions. That is another angle for Hunt to consider.
As I have a thing about WADA corruption and being bought, here’s the article.
The timing of trying to convince Darya Pishchalnikova in 2013 to retract evidence is interesting - it coincides with the 300K Euro “donation” the Russian Govt gave WADA…peerhaps a little persuasion money.
- Russia 2018 World Cup boss in new doping scandal: Vladimir Putin's ally accused of silencing discus thrower whistleblower who lifted lid in 2012
- Vitaly Mutko is alleged to have told Darya Pishchalnikova to retract evidence
- Athlete secretly submitted evidence in 2012 about state-sponsored doping
- Mutko's credibility is in doubt; he is currently Russia's deputy prime minister
- He is also currently standing for re-election to all-powerful FIFA council
- Expert with inside knowledge is scathing at prospect of Mutko being cleared
The man who led Russia’s triumphant 2018 World Cup bid and a key ally of Vladimir Putin is facing a new scandal over claims he silenced a drugs whistleblower.
Multiple sources have alleged to The Mail on Sunday that Vitaly Mutko, the president of Russia’s FA, ordered Darya Pishchalnikova in 2013 to retract evidence she had secretly submitted in 2012 to world sporting bodies about state-sponsored doping.
The incendiary claim casts fresh doubt on the credibility of Mutko, Russia’s former sports minister, who is now deputy prime minister.
He is standing for re-election to the all-powerful FIFA council, a role for which he must pass an integrity test. Mutko is apparently on the verge of passing that test even though he has already been cited by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) for his alleged role in Russian doping.
The result of the vetting process, by FIFA’s review committee, will be announced by European football body UEFA because Mutko is one of their candidates for the FIFA role.
His case has been examined by the panel’s chairman Miguel Poiares Maduro, a former Portuguese government minister, his deputy Mukul Mudgal of India and Peru’s Felipe Cantuarias.
On Saturday night, a senior governance expert with inside knowledge of the FIFA administration was scathing at the prospect of Mutko being cleared.
‘Other people have failed integrity tests for far less than what Mutko is accused of,’ he said. ‘It seems pretty clear he was part of the [doping] system and if you are under serious suspicion, that needs to be seriously vetted. The fact is FIFA’s governance system has imploded. It’s one big sham.’
The notion that Mutko is innocent of doping will be challenged by these new allegations he effectively silenced Pishchalnikova.
Russia has always vehemently denied running a state-sponsored doping programme, first exposed by this newspaper in July 2013 when we named lab boss Grigory Rodchenkov as central to the plot. The MoS revealed at the time that senior coaches were involved in doping and cover-ups across multiple sports.
Pishchalnikova, a discus thrower, won a silver medal at London 2012 but was later told she had tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs for the second time in her career. She responded by writing to WADA and the governing body of athletics, the IAAF, in late 2012. Her letter, seen by The MoS, named Russia’s athletics federation president Valentin Balakhnichev, coaches Valentin Maslakov and Alexei Melnikov and Rodchenkov among those involved in a doping scam.
Three separate sources with knowledge of events have told The MoS that Pishchalnikova was ordered to meet Mutko in early 2013. WADA had sent her letters to Russia’s authorities believing they would sort out the problem.
Two sources are whistleblowers involved in this newspaper’s original exposé — one a coach, the other a lawyer. Another is close to the athlete.
Separately, former Russian anti-doping official and whistleblower Vitaly Stepanov has told The MoS his own sources recounted the same version of events.
‘That’s the story I heard,’ Stepanov said, adding that Pishchalnikova now avoids any mention inside Russia about related issues. ‘It sounds like she is enjoying her life,’ Stepanov says. ‘She doesn’t talk about doping.’
It is alleged Mutko told Pishchalnikova that ‘the president’ [Putin] needed the Moscow anti-doping lab ‘for the Olympics’ and her testimony to WADA should be withdrawn. Sources allege Pishchalnikova initially declined to do as requested, but agreed after being told she faced a life ban if she failed to help Mutko, and a 10-year ban if she helped. Pishchalnikova ended up with a 10-year ban.
She did not respond to a request for comment about Mutko’s role. It is believed she feels she has been a victim of the system once already and sees no benefit in commenting.
Her family’s view is perhaps reflected by the fact that Pishchalnikova’s mother, Tatiana, last year signed an online petition calling for Mutko to be sacked when he was sports minister.
It read: ‘Mutko’s work as a minister compromises Russian sport, puts children and teenagers off sports and causes huge damage to the image of our country in the world.’
The petition makes reference to the fact that independent reports have named Mutko as knowledgeable about and complicit in doping.
The MoS sent detailed questions to both Russia’s Ministry of Sport — where Mutko was in charge in 2013 — and to his current office of Mutko as deputy PM.
Sports Ministry spokeswoman Lyudmila Derevyanko said in a statement: ‘All your questions concern Vitaly Leontiyevich Mutko. We have nothing to say about this, so we have passed them to his office in the government.’
An official at Mutko’s office said by telephone: ‘No one can dictate to the deputy prime minister when he should answer something’, and then hung up.
Stepanov, who worked for years at Russia’s anti-doping agency (RUSADA) before revealing the truth and fleeing the country for his own safety, is certain Mutko played a key role in the doping conspiracy.
'He was minister [of sport] at the time and he couldn’t stay in his position if [Russia’s poor performance at the 2010 Winter Olympics in] Vancouver happened again.
'During my time at RUSADA I could see people loyal to him put into important positions.
'The guy was clearly setting us his own agenda. The guy must be banned from sports for life. There is no discussion. He destroys Olympic values.
‘This happens not only in Russia. That’s how he justifies it. “I’m not the only one”.’
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What is new globally - more evidence that the system is broke: Russia FIFA Workd Cup Boss caught in new doping scandal mailonsunday.co.uk As BWAS pointed out , WADA can be bought with voluntary contributions. That is another angle for Hunt to consider.What influence Fahey ??
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Is perfect for the job then isn’t he? He will probably get the position because no one on the inside wants him on the outside, with what he already knows about a corrupt system.
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I’ll drink to that.
Wot? GetUp’s bosses???
How could you not actually know who GetUp is? Otherwise if you think they are controlled by a shadowy cabal of the Gnomes of Zurich or the Elders of Zion or whoever, you show us the evidence.
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Why is there such inconsistency in ASADA’s investigations?
AUG 1, 2017 — Back in April 2016, ASADA (former) chief executive Ben McDevitt, spent five days defending his organisation over its failure to pursue a prima facie case against Nathan Bock and former Gold Coast Football Club high performance manager Dean Robinson. This was after sports scientist Stephen Dank publicly admitted to supplying the retired All-Australian defender with a banned peptide. ASADA said they would reopen the investigation, but according to FOI documents, they never did.
Back in the second half of 2012, a supplements program was implemented at the Melbourne Football Club, which was very similar to the Essendon program.
The Melbourne Football Club supplements program had similar injections to the Essendon program, the electronic communications (in which legal substance Thymomodulin was mentioned) was similar, the architect of the program was similar (Stephen Dank), the secrecy obligations were the same, and there were no positive samples from either club. Despite all these similarities, they were not subject to an ASADA investigation, no report was issued and there were no penalties.
On 3 March 2016, Ben McDevitt stated to Senators (refer Hansard, Senate transcript, p24, 25)
“Frankly, this stuff about thymomodulin—the ‘good’ thymosin—was shown to be absolute rubbish”
No ASADA investigation, report or sanctions confirms ASADA has accepted Melbourne players were given the legal substance Thymomodulin; but not Essendon. Why is there such inconsistency with ASADA?
Another example: Text messages relevant to the Melbourne Football Club program were not presented to the Court of Arbitration of Sport. The transcript of a relevant ABC 7.30 Report of April 18, 2013 relating to the Melbourne program was not presented to the Court of Arbitration of Sport; yet a transcript of the ABC 7.30 Report program of May 2, 2013 relating to the Essendon program was presented to the Court of Arbitration of Sport.
The conclusion is neither ASADA nor WADA wished to present any evidence relating to another program which clearly suggested the Essendon players being administered with a legal substance Thymomodulin, not the banned substance Thymosin Beta 4.
The attached FOI letter identifies only 3 documents within the scope of an FOI request into an investigation into Melbourne Football Club: an internal email from 2012, and 2 interviews in 2013.
This is a blatantly inadequate investigation into one of the most significant anti-doping cases in world sport as:
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ASADA has no records of discussions, briefings, minutes nor decisions flowing on from the 2 interviews. This indicates no internal deliberations were held by ASADA in respect to the two interviews;
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Only 2 interviews were conducted concerning these activities, compared to how many at Essendon. Why weren’t a significant number, if not all Melbourne players interviewed;
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The resulting 2015 guilty finding against Sports Scientist Stephen Dank did not trigger any further ASADA enquiries or investigations into Melbourne or Gold Coast players. Why?
Its clear ASADA does not accept it was obliged to eliminate all possibilities pointing to the players innocence. However the evidence is now too compelling to ignore.
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Yeah! Signed as well.
So have all my family and a few friends.
I know if it could be proven the Melbourne players were given Thymomodulin it would kill the case against Essendon and its players.
My interest is if Melbourne players were given supplements, why aren’t we hearing from them?
Surely some would be worried about deformed babies and the like as was told to some Essendon players.
Some would, perhaps like to share in the compensation or be guaranteed contract extensions.
Please explain! Now I’ve got a headache.
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Jamar was mentioned in the texts as getting injections from Dank.
Neeld was the coach.
Maybe we can use them to get Melbourne kicked out of the finals.
More likely, the buck stops with the coach and number 1 ruck. We’d probably have to find new coaches and be kicked out of the draft for hiring them.
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Christ, now I am paranoid. You are saying that Essendon took on these people to muffle them. That they were given extras so that if they stirred the pot outsiders could point and say “see more Essendon people from the saga, so it was true”?
My headache’s getting worse!
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Pig and the Milky Bar Kid were clearly well satisfied Melbourne were angels, unlike us. /s
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