Political Correctness

beastie · October 15, 2018, 12:12am

Agreed.

What is funny is that a protective piece of legislation is argued on merit for 7 seconds and then turns into a discussion about how people not effected feel about the people it protects.

simmo41 · October 15, 2018, 2:49am

No, because they chose to be that way

Alan_Noonan_10 · October 15, 2018, 2:52am

Unfair…they may have been dropped on their heads as a baby…or flogged mercilessly by their parents.

FuriousGeorge · October 16, 2018, 12:00am

But I can still commit genocide against unidentifiable groups, right?

wimmera1 · October 16, 2018, 12:23am

Oh, yeah.
All you have to do is show the fact the group is identifiable is incidental.
You were burning down a nightclub with people inside.
It just happened to be close.
You didn’t burn it down because it was a gay nightclub.

FuriousGeorge · October 16, 2018, 12:26am

Ok, got it. I’d hate to have purchased “An Idiot’s Guide to Genocide” for nothing.

Preliminary_Point2 · October 16, 2018, 1:38am

Let’s disband the Liberal party, doesn’t fit the dictionary meaning.

Eastie_Boi1 · October 16, 2018, 8:26am

Shelton10:

I didn’t quote full Oxford because I don’t have it (I do have an edition from the eighties which I’ll check, but I’ll bet it says nothing about social constructs, identification, etc.)

The Collins suits your view, as does the WHO (which has only been in that form since 2011). Cambridge is neutral.

1950s/1970s, what’s the difference. The point is that “gender theory” is a very recent invention. And contrary to your assertion it is very far from being universally accepted.

If someone with a male body wants to “identify” as female that’s fine by me. He/she can wear what he/she likes and behave as he/she wants. And if Bill decides that he wants to wear dresses and makeup and be called Carmen I’ll go along with it in most situations at least. But if he/she claims a right to play in a women’s tennis tournament or AFLW game then I do have a problem with it, as I think does anyone with a functioning brain. Similarly if a person with a male body wants to play in a men’s tournament. Or if they claim the “right” to have their birth certificate altered. And I’m afraid that I’m not going to be able to think of “Carmen” as anything other than Bill dressing in women’s clothing.

It’s 2018 not the 80s though?

So what you’re saying is that no definition (from any semi-reputable source) of gender specifically refers to biological sex, yet you still want to argue that it does?

Again, it’s 2018 and not 1955. Do you also still consider Indigenous Australian’s not to be Australian citizens as that only came into affect in 1967?
I’m also still waiting to see these sources of “not universally accepted”

Shelton10 · October 16, 2018, 8:47am

Sorry, but I can’t be bothered. If you want to believe all that stuff, go ahead and believe it. I don’t and I won’t.

Eastie_Boi1 · October 16, 2018, 9:01am

So you don’t believe, or want to believe, the dictionary definition of a word in your (presumably) primary spoken language?
Makes sense :S

Eastie_Boi1 · October 16, 2018, 9:03am

As an aside.
The WADA recognised powerlifting federation has moved to make wearing a shirt on deadlifts compulsory due to competitors potentially feeling body conscious due to other competitors not wearing shirts.
I kid you not.

The_Firing_Line · October 16, 2018, 9:15am

Always being a Kochhead

simmo41 · October 16, 2018, 9:22am

They’re all fat cnts though?

Eastie_Boi1 · October 16, 2018, 9:30am

The super heavies tend to be but the guys in the lighter classes are always pretty lean (if they’re not just making up numbers)

handypoint · October 16, 2018, 11:48am

Does David Koch get fired now?

God I hope so.

Alan_Noonan_10 · October 16, 2018, 12:05pm

That’s not even to do with political correctness…it’s just way beyond the pale.

handypoint · October 16, 2018, 12:07pm

Yeah but will it carry enough outrage to get him off the TV?

Kozza · October 16, 2018, 12:19pm

Fixed.

Captain_Jack · October 16, 2018, 1:51pm

Move over Eddie. Actually McGuire copped a bit of heat for his own racist quip, but not enough to force him out of his job.

The_Firing_Line · October 17, 2018, 11:34pm