B: Mark Baguley - Michael Hartley - Aaron Francis
HB: Andrew McGrath - Michael Hurley - James Kelly
C: Travis Colyer - Jobe Watson - Brent Stanton
HF: David Zaharakis - Joe Daniher - Kyle Langford
FF: Orasio Fantasia - Cale Hooker - Anthony Tipungwuti
FOL: Matthew Leuenberger - Dyson Heppell (C) - Zach Merrett (vc)
B: Mark Baguley - Michael Hartley - Aaron Francis
HB: Andrew McGrath - Michael Hurley - James Kelly
C: Travis Colyer - Jobe Watson - Brent Stanton
HF: David Zaharakis - Joe Daniher - Kyle Langford
FF: Orasio Fantasia - Cale Hooker - Anthony Tipungwuti
FOL: Matthew Leuenberger - Dyson Heppell (C) - Zach Merrett (vc)
This is pretty spot on, might chuck TBell in if required, Laverde/Howlett my come in for Langford through the year
Possibly a little harsh on Dea, and Iād like to have Green in too but buggered if I can find a spot for him.
Good side.
In the right positions, too.
Yeah i forgot to include Dea and Green in the emergencies. No doubt they will be around the mark, particularly Green if he can have a big pre-season.
I donāt see the huge love for Dea in all the best 22 to be honest. He is very solid and is very hard and courageous which you love. Plus still has scope for improvement but I just donāt see him being much more than solid.
Itās a plus that he can play tall and small but right now I would have him behind Francis, Brown and Ambrose as third tall defender options. Then behind Baguley and even McGrath as lock down back pockets. He is good depth I just canāt see him getting games unless we get injuries.
B: Mark Baguley - Michael Hartley - Aaron Francis
HB: Andrew McGrath - Michael Hurley - James Kelly
C: Travis Colyer - Jobe Watson - Brent Stanton
HF: David Zaharakis - Joe Daniher - Kyle Langford
FF: Orasio Fantasia - Cale Hooker - Anthony Tipungwuti
FOL: Matthew Leuenberger - Dyson Heppell (C) - Zach Merrett (vc)
This is pretty spot on, might chuck TBell in if required, Laverde/Howlett my come in for Langford through the year
Possibly a little harsh on Dea, and Iād like to have Green in too but buggered if I can find a spot for him.
Good side.
In the right positions, too.
Yeah i forgot to include Dea and Green in the emergencies. No doubt they will be around the mark, particularly Green if he can have a big pre-season.
I donāt see the huge love for Dea in all the best 22 to be honest. He is very solid and is very hard and courageous which you love. Plus still has scope for improvement but I just donāt see him being much more than solid.
Itās a plus that he can play tall and small but right now I would have him behind Francis, Brown and Ambrose as third tall defender options. Then behind Baguley and even McGrath as lock down back pockets. He is good depth I just canāt see him getting games unless we get injuries.
With Baguley, Kelly and McGrath all being short defenders (not to mention Tippa if we plan to roll him through there) I think weāll find that at least one of Gleeson or Dea will play each week (or most weeks) to give us that extra flexibility. Goddard and especially Myers Iām not sold on playing in this sort of capacity.
I think that player who can provide some good rebound but still compete well enough in the air and at a pinch play ātallā is valuable.
Even with say a Hurls, Harts and Ambrose type setup back there I still think this type of player is important in providing cover on turnover transition and just generally giving us a few more options at freeing up another player to play a different role if we so desire.
B: Mark Baguley - Michael Hartley - Aaron Francis
HB: Andrew McGrath - Michael Hurley - James Kelly
C: Travis Colyer - Jobe Watson - Brent Stanton
HF: David Zaharakis - Joe Daniher - Kyle Langford
FF: Orasio Fantasia - Cale Hooker - Anthony Tipungwuti
FOL: Matthew Leuenberger - Dyson Heppell (C) - Zach Merrett (vc)
Hardest position to fill for mine is the 3rd tall forward. Daniher and Hooker are clearly locks but what I want to see in pre-season is another forward, whether that be a mid size or tall, really stand up as a quality marking option and claim that position as his own. Langford, Laverde, Stewart, Francis etc
Itās an interesting thing looking at all the names on the list. I agree that J Merrett is probably the only ālist cloggerā on our whole list. Theres so much development and excitement to come in the next few years.
It's an interesting thing looking at all the names on the list. I agree that J Merrett is probably the only "list clogger" on our whole list. Theres so much development and excitement to come in the next few years.
Ben Howlett. Possibly even Bird.
It may be unpopular but these are established players who should be hitting their prime and virtually noone has them anywhere near their best 22. Says something.
Hardest position to fill for mine is the 3rd tall forward. Daniher and Hooker are clearly locks but what I want to see in pre-season is another forward, whether that be a mid size or tall, really stand up as a quality marking option and claim that position as his own. Langford, Laverde, Stewart, Francis etc
Hardest position to fill for mine is the 3rd tall forward. Daniher and Hooker are clearly locks but what I want to see in pre-season is another forward, whether that be a mid size or tall, really stand up as a quality marking option and claim that position as his own. Langford, Laverde, Stewart, Francis etc
BROWN DAWG
At this stage I would have TBell/Lueny rotating through the forward line to be that third target. Over time I think Francis will play that role.
It's an interesting thing looking at all the names on the list. I agree that J Merrett is probably the only "list clogger" on our whole list. Theres so much development and excitement to come in the next few years.
Ben Howlett. Possibly even Bird.
It may be unpopular but these are established players who should be hitting their prime and virtually noone has them anywhere near their best 22. Says something.
Itās a good point. If we are a top 8 side they will be considered great depth players but if things go to ā ā ā ā suddenly they become list cloggers
Hardest position to fill for mine is the 3rd tall forward. Daniher and Hooker are clearly locks but what I want to see in pre-season is another forward, whether that be a mid size or tall, really stand up as a quality marking option and claim that position as his own. Langford, Laverde, Stewart, Francis etc
BROWN DAWG
At this stage I would have TBell/Lueny rotating through the forward line to be that third target. Over time I think Francis will play that role.
Iād be reluctant to play all of Luey, Bellcho and Daniher. Having said that if Bellcho can get super, super fit it is a possibility. Itās a big if though
When they get a game they contribute very effectively in their role. Jerrett is hit and miss, more often the latter.
Bird was terrific this year but we probably have even better inside mid options than him. If one of Watson, Myers or Hocking isnāt available he would be straight in.
Howlett a little more difficult to judge but from training reports he has lost weight and is flying on the track. And doing a lot of goal kicking. Not many players give more onfield than him so he could be a surprise packet as a defensive fwd ala Puopolo or also in mid rotations.
They may not be in most peopleās best team. But would be if expanding out to best 25 or so and thus are important.
Iād almost be inclined to say Laverde over Zaka every day of the week too.
Depends on what you want out of your team, from a grade A 100% pure columbā¦development point and no fuss about losing, you want Laverde but if we play for wins and pushing for finals, Zaka everyday of the week twice on Sunday.
Surprises me that many have McGrath in the team when he has not played a game of senior footy. He can play that is for sure, but he has no form against men, and may need sometime to get used to the pace of senior footy.
And after watching the Bulldogs win a GF with pace and rapid ball movement, I reckon that classic players like Stanton and Goddard may struggle to keep up. I would replace Goddard with Langford or perhaps Francis after we have a look at him in pre-season.
So are you saying every first year player should never play R1? You should go back and check every year on how many first year players play R1. Stanton is in our top 2 best endurance players and Goddard is arguably our best kick therefore they will always have a skillset for this game. Elite endurance and precision kicking is a must in the modern game to go along with the modern tactics of running from half back.
When they get a game they contribute very effectively in their role. Jerrett is hit and miss, more often the latter.
Bird was terrific this year but we probably have even better inside mid options than him. If one of Watson, Myers or Hocking isnāt available he would be straight in.
Howlett a little more difficult to judge but from training reports he has lost weight and is flying on the track. And doing a lot of goal kicking. Not many players give more onfield than him so he could be a surprise packet as a defensive fwd ala Puopolo or also in mid rotations.
They may not be in most peopleās best team. But would be if expanding out to best 25 or so and thus are important.
It really depends on definition. My broad definition of a list clogger is anybody who isnāt going to get better and who isnāt best 22. This doesnāt preclude them from also being good depth, and sometimes you have to keep a list clogger because theyāre the only available depth. I wouldnāt currently put Bird or Howlett in list clogger category because thatās a call to make after a season finishes, not before a season starts, especially for us in 2017.