How the hell could you interpret my statement that way???
I’m saying that the important thing was we were doing all the right things, and if Stringer had kicked 2.5 instead of 0.7 and we’d lost it wouldn’t have changed the good things we’d done. That good habits lead to wins, not wins to good habits.
Is it less Dougs; or dougless
It’s easy to interpret what you’re saying that way because you’re claiming winning was not the right outcome strategically. Again how does winning yesterday hurt us strategically as you’re claiming?
The win amongst other things was off the back of some great green shoots from kids. There is absolutely no reason to factor in how Stringer kicked - how does that mean anything as to if we had good habits?
Did our kids play a style of footy or want to play in future? Yes. Did we win? Yes. So winning yesterday is a great outcome and strategically has to be the right thing for the future.
Do you realise that Briggs was dropped for Madden midseason. Briggs Only returned to the team because Madden was injured.
It seems that a lot of Blitzers are confused about the 2016 draft picks 1 & 2…everyone keeps mentioning McCluggage as if he was the #2 pick when he was actually number 3.
Taranto went at number 2.
I was there at the VFL and he was really, really good and had great body language etc. Took the dropping well, so credit to him. Exactly what you’d expect and want.
I don’t really think that follows. The strategy of bottoming out (if you do it), is to gets lots of games into promising young players while not winning many games. The not winning many games is not just a side effect of the playing kids that you accept, it’s an important part of the process because the draft exists. If there was no draft, teams might well be ■■■■, but they would behave very differently when they were. Given that part of the strategy is losing a lot, it can in fact be strategically bad to win a game. You’re trying to strike a balance between teaching the players to compete while relying on the team not being competitive. Strategy can be in tension with the operational/tactical, and definitely with the personal.
Just re-watching the game. El Achkar’s pressure is really good, but also I don’t know how you can watch how he plays and not recognise there is a massive difference between a small forward and a small player in the forward line.
Also, obviously Stringer’s 0.7 was helpful, Laverde’s back to back ■■■■ ups at the top of the square to gift us a goal at the beginning of the third quarter shouldn’t go unappreciated when considering the influence of former Essendon players.
Um, I’ve written a whole heap on that in this thread. Effectively I think we’ll get less AFL assistance (probably lose pick #19), have worse picks and less strength in trades. See below:
Ok, I’m saying two things.
On #2 above, that means doing the good stuff such as pressure, working hard, competing hard across 4 quarters that we showed on Sunday is absolutely critical. But the result wasn’t, in my opinion.
The point of Stringer is that if he had goaled and we’d lost, all the “good stuff” you assign to winning in my view we get those benefits anyway. Building the habits, working hard, putting pressure, etc. are all the things we need to do to create a winning culture. Whether they got us over the line or not on Sunday is neither here nor there, and in reality GWS lost the game far more than we won it. But, we did the right things, and that gave us a chance of winning, which we took.
It was also won on the back of GWS fumbling so much and Stringer kicking seven behinds. But I’ll take it.
Staging or no staging, it was still ■■■■■■■ stupid from Roberts at a critical time in the game. I love his aggression, but he needs to smarter than that. He got a away with the first couple, cut your loses.
gotta say, the sequence and delivery to Langford right at the end of the game was champagne footy, love to see more of it
I think you got that mixed up. Briggs has played every game but one since round 8, that’s not mid season. He is ill and its Madden coming in for an injured Briggs against Essendon, and they lost to Essendon…..
He needed to get used to the new ruck rules early season, spent two weeks in VFL getting 20 and 30 touches, plus goals and straight back as GWS number 1 ruck.
The mark at top speed was Lloyd-like, and then we had two players chew up 35 seconds each before kicking.
I agree wholeheartedly with this. The fact that we won underpins everything you have said even more. Accountability; if applied correctly; is one of the strongest man-management tools you can use. If the players are made accountable for their performance, not only does it reinforce positive behaviour but it will discourage poor behaviour. The big picture is right here…not the stuff some are suggesting regarding losing pick 1 and AFL assistance packages.
Has there been any news on Caddy’s illness?
Madden’s first game back after a PCL.
He’s a talent. He also hasn’t been playing for a while. Certainly not since GWS have come good.
100%
Leadership is about holding people accountable, and following through on disciplining people if they don’t keep up the required standards.
When people say that this club lacks leadership. We are talking about the refusal to follow through on holding people accountable.
Well done Dean Solomon. Deserved the win.