Review thread: ANZAC Day Dumpster fire

Righto.

If you were X, list your steps that you would take to get back on track.

Bit late reading this… hope they invited you into the rooms for a WOB rant/spray! Hats off to you for even being there.

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Perhaps I should be Loyal but not proud. :frowning:ļø

agree scott

we’ll make carlton look like the 1995 premiership side in a couple weeks time :’(

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I remember when Kevin Sheedy joined Essendon as coach he said that the club had lost its soul with the death of John Coleman. The situation the club is in now has a very similar feel about it - lost its soul.

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X did his ā€œdue diligenceā€ before extending the contract and all the available evidence pointed to a good decision despite the fact it’s proven to be otherwise. Yeah, not sure why the hurry?

I’d ask my executive in charge of football operations to explain wtf is going on

Then I’d probably tell him/her to start prepations for an external review of the football department.

Ask for a list of external companies/consultants that have the expertise, and personnel, along with expected costs.

And ask for some draft terms of reference.

All those things back to me in three days.

That would do for the first day.

Day 2 would probably be a management team meeting for a brainstorming session on the best way forward.

If you want any advice after that it’s $250 per hour.

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My view is that an external review of the football department after two wins and three losses at round 5 is completely unnecessary and undermines those that we have trusted to do the job. It’s an over the top reaction.

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Its not 5 rounds its 50 rounds

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you don’t think alarm bells should be ringing for the club? what is a proper reaction in your opinion?

Decent game of footy, thought Joe cracked in hard which is good to see.

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I’d say your first step has probably happened.

Step 2 has been answered by @WindyHillWindSock

And the rest is all review related.

If the season continues to play out the way it has so far, then yep, I’m all for a review to start towards the end of the season. At least they’ll have some reasonable data to go with. Now is a little premature.

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Agree. I’d rather a bunch of players with loads of talent give it their all.

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flew back home to Sydney this orning so have had plenty of time to think …

I haven’t read through the thread co excuse me if I go over old ground…

Jackson merret…why pick him no threat to the opposition the magpies would have said ha ha ha when he was picked…Why wouldn’t you play Clarke or mutch give them the experience and maybe just maybe they may play a blinder like so many other nobodies seem to do against us,

The national anthem we all stood there as individuals no linking of arms first time they haven’t done it.

the coaching…

ill give 2 examples…I sat in the MCC members not far from where both coaches sit…

It was obvious what the pies were doing ala bulldgos and freemantle game yet it took 3 quarters before er picked up the loose man in defence…lets out number them at the contest then kick to a 3 on 1 and then have them run it past us…fark me

I actually had a good day on the punt winning plenty off my mate in predicting who would get the ball at stoppages…iwas calling out numbers of Collingwood players and to my mates surprise they would get the ball from the stoppage…oh it would be advisable to pick up the colllingwood guy on the defensive side of the stoppage for future reference.

ill put my hand up and say for the first time I actually left early to the surprise of the people I went with…

now some 24 hours later I still cant actually believe what went on yesterday…

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We’ve backed this football department in only recently.
We have to trust them to do their job, and blitzers would be far better off accepting that this is going to be the set-up for the next 12 weeks, perhaps even longer.

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I differ to most of you. I think the majority of you are over reacting, emotional and angry. I’m not trying to pick a fight, I just don’t see it the way that you do.
My reaction is that it is way too early to have trusted people looking over their shoulder and reviewing their performance. It sends a poor message to the employees and to the players as it is just not warranted after round 5. The only message it sends is that we are on the verge of imploding. I base my expectation of the team this year on our list and our opposition and I believe that we are in the second half of teams. If Fanta and Joe play very well we are bottom part of the top 8. Clearly my expectation is lower than most here and so while I was disappointed yesterday I would not be turning the club upside down because of it.

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I think the Blitz needs an external review.

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This is a email I sent to Xavier Campbell today.

I have never written a letter to the club, but I’ve basically had enough

Surely as CEO, you have to recognise my anger in our inconsistent performances, it’s really getting embarrassing for the club. I’m sure your aware we haven’t won a final for 14 years, only Gold Coast have not won a final in that time. We supported this club through the saga, we always have, we have 70,000 members and we deserve better. This certainly isn’t aimed at you, but I think as CEO you need to start asking questions of certain players and coaching staff however that may be. Il give you some examples. You are the ceo of one of the biggest clubs in the country, it’s time a few changes happen

David Myers is a very limited player. I know he is rated internally as a excellent leader and great club man, but he has his limitations. Admittedly, he was great against port but that is the exception performance, not the rule. Tell me the last time he repeated that kind of game for a month straight. David’s one sideness, poor hand balling, and kicking blindly out of packs hurts. Surely Kyle Langford should be given a extended run in the seniors in place of David? Both play similar roles. Josh begley has played every game this year, and whilst in every game he has played this season he has had good moments, his numbers have been poor. What he does is good but he goes missing for big periods in games. It’s a shame he’s done his ACL, but my point is, if Kyle produces the level of impact in a game josh does, he is dropped immediately. Example, Langford had a good game against Adelaide round 1, round 2 he had a poor game against freo (he wasn’t alone) and he was dropped and hasn’t got a look in

If Kyle is going to be dropped that easily, then other’s should be too. It’s poor player development to drop a kid who has one good game, one bad game then back to the vfl. If I was Kyle, I’d be asking myself ā€œwhy the hell do I get dropped at the drop of a hat, yet guys like begs and Myers can play at the same level and still get selectedā€

I’m not kyle’s biggest fan and he has areas he needs to work on, but give him a block of games without the fear of being dropped. We’ve gifted players games who haven’t deserved it plenty of times, so it can’t be said he needs to earn a game. His VFL numbers and efforts are always good anyway

Why would we keep selecting Mark baguley? Do you see how many goals he constantly gets kicked on him weekly? Is it not worth giving mcneice a crack now that he is fit? Bags constantly gets beaten 1 on 1, last season he had the most goals kicked in him for a small defender in the competition, that is fact. I love his endeavour, hardness and commitment but he’s defensivley poor and a liability. I’m sure you can see baguley isn’t great one on one these days, and it’s exactly why Collingwood isolated whoever was his direct opponent in the goalsquare 3 times for 3 goals in the first quarter. That’s poor coaching

Why do we chip, chip, chip around and then bomb it long to a 2v1? What kind of gamestyle is that? Structures are breaking down. Forwards are not working hard enough to work back and then lead up at the ball carrier. It’s so blatantly obvious. It was disgusting at how easily Collingwood transitioned the footy yesterday, we were witches hats. I feel sorry for saad, he will take the game on, look up, and have literally no one to kick it to because no one has worked back hard enough or leading at him. It’s deadset embarrassing the work rate of our guys sometimes

What do sacked coaches like Harvey and Mark neeld, from clubs that had zero success under them, bring to the fold? Are their not better options out there from clubs in the modern era with success? Open the cheque book for Blake Caracalla, every club he has coached at has been successful. Surely he would know a tad about successful environments? I like worsfold, but he lacks on game day a little with matchups, making moves during the game and our current gameplan. Having better quality coaches around him who have fresh ideas from winning cultures is a no brainer in my opinion

We, the supporters were told the focus of pre season was defence. So for mine, you have a whole pre season to practice changing your game plan a little. 5 round in, 3 losses we have coughed up 100 points, 99 to Adelaide where we were lucky we had a good last quarter, and 85 to port in a game I felt we dominated. Where is the improvement in defence? Their is clearly a communication breakdown between the coaching staff and players. They do not know what to do. 127 marks yesterday and 90 odd came in our defensive 50, and look at the score we kicked. It’s completely unacceptable to watch the players confused and have no idea what they are doing. It’s a footy game plan, not a manual on a nasa spaceship. All it’s taking is for one or two errors out of D50 and the entire playing group goes into its shell and play safe footy where we don’t run, take risks or take the game on. If the players can’t execute whatever gameplan they are given, find ones who can. It’s not a talent issue, have a count of how many number 1 picks, first round picks, all Australians,rising star winners, and that’s without counting in guys like raz and walla. It is not a talent issue at all

Why after 15 years is our midfield still non competitive? Devon Smith has shown in 5 games the kind of two way running and ferocity/hassling kind of approach you need. Zac Merrett, parish and him are your three we need to build around. It’s been a area of weakness for far, far too long. Perhaps have a look at dylan Clarke or Kobe Mutch, they both are in good form and deserve a shot

I’m sick of mediocrity. I’m sick of the club letting me down. I’m sick of spending thousands of dollars to see my side get belted and embarrassed. We haven’t won a final for 14 ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā– ā–  years and the sad part is it’s not looking like it’s changing anytime soon. Start to question how hungry certain players are, start to question coaching methods, start to question player development, start to question the kind of players we draft, because after 14 years, something has got to give and SOMETHING has to change because the players, coaches, staff and supporters deserve success. It’s about time this club started putting in a consistent effort and hiding behind things like ā€œthe group has to gelā€ or standard lines they wheel out to the media.

I hope you have the time to address my points as I think they are very valid. Thousands of others feel the same

Regards

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Playing the kids doesn’t necessarily mean we don’t make the 8.

We have plenty of talent waiting in the wings that need a chance.

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