All of these Western tanks - be they Leopards or Abrams - actually operating on Ukr territory open up new difficulties in training and maintenance, to say nothing of battlefield tactics, co-ordination and IQ on performance. Russian equipment may well have their arses handed to them, but they’ll get valuable info for next gen equipment. Or they should.
This is a huge step imo, and even “victory” will come with future negatives in some aspects.
Thought AO officials were going to crack down on this?
Should have been forcibly evicted and then copped a flogging once out of the public view
I trust Victorian police will take care of the situation with their usual level of tact and diplomacy
Ambassador Myroshnychenko is thankful
https://twitter.com/AmbVasyl/status/1618384245793361920
Perfect video except it has Geelong in it
I gave the link for 3000 Abrams tanks above:
It is the official US Government Accounting Office report:
January 1992 OPERATION DESERT STORM
Early Performance Assessment of Bradley and Abarms
Page 2 confirms that both Bradley and Abrams crews complained they had exhausted their stocks of spare parts in the 100-hour ground war. Also:
As of February 26, 1991, a total of 2,200 Bradley Fighting Vehicles were in
the Persian Gulf area. Of these, a total of 1,730 were assigned to the
deployed units, and the remaining 470 Bradleys were held in reserve. Of
the 1,730 Bradleys assigned to the deployed units, 834 were the newest
mode1 Bradley-the A2 high survivability model. Some Army units that did
not have the A2 model Bradley vehicle prior to deploying deployed with
older models but were provided the A2 models as they became available.
At the same time, a total of 3,113 Abrams tanks were in the Persian Gulf
area. Of these, 2,024 tanks were assigned to deployed units, and the
remaining 1,089 tanks were held in reserve. Of the 2,024 tanks that were
assigned to troops, 1,904 were MlAls, and 120 were Mls. Some Army
units deployed with the older model Abrams, but most exchanged their
older model Abrams for MlAls once they were in the Persian Gulf.
Source for troop numbers was:
citation 6 in:
Those numbers were of course vastly excessive.
Perhaps you are thinking of the much later Iraq war?
Numbers required to liberate Iraq from that tinpot dictator were of course vastly smaller because the people of Iraq and the troops had just as little desire to fight against an army liberating them as the Russians. In fact most of the fighting was done by Iraqis.
As I said, fighting for liberation does require a lot less forces than fighting for oil wells (which did not require the utterly ludicrous wastage that the USA indulged in because it was being paid for by Kuwait).
Naturally the US foreign policy establishment was wildly enthusiastic about rescuing Kuwait oil fields but largely opposed to the successful liberation of Iraq.
TA likes flag waving. It only acted to ban Russian and Belarus flags after protests. It has been doing some bag checking, but it wouldn’t be hard to smuggle a flag.
The connection to Serbia appears designed to show hypocrisy.
After Belarus, Serbia would be closest to Russia and Putin.
Are these sports bodies expected to restrict nationals of any country that might be supportive of Russia in its war with Ukraine?
AFAIK , there are no Victorian laws prohibiting the display of any national flags.
Azerbaijan now protesting about the player publicly supporting the Armenian separatist region there.
They are clearly waving Russian flags so TA should do their job and confiscate them
Would that “separatist” region be the one that Azerbaijan recently invaded and took over?
Attracting international attention
Thats a Serbian flag there but take off the crest and turn it upside down…
It’s the one in Azerbaijan borders that is being blocked in access to Armenia.
A difficult balancing act, when separist regions in Ukraine are condemned.
The coming spring battles will be ‘bloody’ and ‘likely quite decisive’ - Jim Townsend, former US Deputy Secretary of Defence for Europe and NATO.
Discussion is on tanks until 7:02
Russia’s next offensive might not be on the eastern front | Jim Townsend
Judging by the lack of thought/intelligence, woeful planning, stupid tactics and strategic blunders consistently demonstrated by russia so far in this War, I am predicting a multi-pronged attack from Belarus and russia along Ukraine’s northern border on Friday the 24th of February 2023, proceeded by an early morning, mass missile attack. Their objective will be to take Kyiv in a blitzkrieg attempt to topple the Ukrainian government…
That’s an additional reason why the current step will need to be followed by the further step of a war aim beyond expelling Russian fascists back to Russia where they can use the experience gained to prepare another war.
Unconditional surrender and establishment of democracy in Russia will enable sharing of advanced military technology with an ally - as it did following the unconditional surrender of Nazi Germany.
The war will stop at the pre 2008 borders. Anything beyond that is an attack on Russian sovereignty and a nuclear trigger.
But there’s a lot of blood to be spilled before that becomes even close to a reality. Russia will evolve its tactics and it’s critical that Ukr continues to overestimate them
They’ll need experienced, elite troops , and effective armoured forces , for such a blitzkrieg thrust .
I’m not sure if they’d have either. And I’m dubious that US intelligence and surveillance would allow UKR to be surprised by any crossing from Belarus.
It was a joke
So, I take strong issue with this statement. War is never to be run like a business.
If you want to lose, if you want to have multitude of your ppl killed and equipment destroyed, then plan for “just enough”.
There should NEVER be a consideration of “proportianal” force, only overwhelming force to obliterate the enemy fighting capability. Hopefully, that show of force prevents a shooting conflict in the first place (SunTzu). If you are not willing to put that force in place, then don’t go to war.
Gen Schwarzkopf did it the right way and his political masters did the right thing to enable it.
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The West needs to send Ukraine more than tanks to beat Russia | Tobias Ellwood
