Tragic that because the goal of any talks and new security arrangements should always be that everyone is on the same side ie the side of life and peace.
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They do exist.
The distinction between strategic nuclear arsenal and tactical nuclear bombs boils down to the yield and the range as explained earlier.
The history of nuclear proliferation is quite telling. Every time some new contry is found to have a nuclear weapons program the consequences have been laughable.
Is the west going to turn Israel into a glass desert if it uses nukes on Iran? I donât think so. Would Russia or China or even Pakistan do it? Highly unlikely as they would become the target.
I would even doubt if there is a big response fromnthe USA if Russia uses tactical nukes to destroy an UA division/corps assembling to cross an take Belgorod. Specially with the incoming admin.
Itâs a bit cynical of me, but seems to be the reality as I perceive it at this point
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The precedent was set in 1945, and nuking Japan was fully justified by the USA at the time. Winners write history.
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Beneath the political surface of the IAEA, nuclear scientists from member countries work together, off the formal record. When governments shut them out because their advice doesnât fit the narrative , or when they are pressured to modify their advice, we are in big trouble.
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Other countries have the technology now, itâs not the same situation
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You mean like what happened to Oppenheimer?
Why not ? Do you think if Harry Truman knew the Japanese or Germans had a nuclear weapon that he would not have dropped the bombs on Japan ?
Yanks have always been shoot first and ask questions later.
I have no trust at all in your theory that there is some code between nations who have a nuke that they will not use it unless someone else does. In fact, I bet USA has a war plan on how much damage is acceptable in a nuclear war. The Rightwingers would give up LA and SF in a flash.
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Weâre not talking about WW2, weâre talking about a post cold war era. Youâre ignoring 70 years of geopolitical history that led to this point
Itâs also not a âcodeâ, itâs just game theory. If Russia is implicitly permitted to use nukes, then so is everyone else, which means theyâre permitted to be sold, which means thereâs a reasonable scenario Russia will export its weapons to Iran, the Houthis, etc
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Interesting scenario hypotheticalâŚ
On Russian territory⌠I probably agree.
Tactical nuke on occupied Ukrainian territory, I donât expect a nuclear response (or a US solo response) but NATO stepping in with conventional weapons (as threatened) is what I would expect.
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Do you think Generals of any colour or creed have changed their views on winning wars in the last 2000 years ? I once drank vile Indian whisky with a group of Indian generals who spoke with a gleam in their eye about dropping nukes on Pakistan. I have no faith in sanity from any military and most country leaders.
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I donât think NATO armies are going to be as effective as weâd like them to be any more. The Russian army has its limitations but it has spent several years now gaining on the ground experience with warfare in the autonomous era.
Sure, they are taking huge losses for minimal gains, but if the tables were turned and Russia was on the defensive I imagine that it would be very hard for NATO troops to take territory back without high levels of casualty and I donât think that we have the political will for that type of warfare.
The time to strike was when Ukraine had the upper hand and had breached rear defensive lines, and prizoghin was on the march. By trying to bleed Russia instead of finishing the job the west has created a headache for a decade or two.
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Tank technology has come a long way
German WWI Tank A7V Sturmpanzerwagen Numbr 506 âMephistoâ at the Queensland Museum
A 30 ton tank powered by two 100hp four-cylinder Daimler engines.
Mephisto â rarest tank in the world | Australian War Memorial
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