Russia invades Ukraine - 6 - from 7 August 2024

Brett Bair asking direct questions in his interview just now with Zelensky

Zelensky all class :ukraine:

Zelensky very thankful to the US for all supports

Thanks Trump for supporting Ukraine

Wants war to end like US

Skips the question on apology

US and Ukraine have to be honest with each other and must be on the same side

Important US supports Ukraine with Europe to stop Putin

Respects President and US people

Thinks discussions between Ukraine and US without press important. What happened today bad for both sides

Zelensky ready to sign minerals deal but wants security guarantee. Thinks signing minerals deal is first step

Ceasefire without security guarantee is difficult

Ukraine wants peace and wants negotiations and lasting peace. Ukraine is ready to make peace

Minerals deal first step to peace that’s why he’s in the US

Zelensky respects his people and soldiers but believes Putin will come back into Ukraine if peace deal is done. Security guarantee form US and Europe important

War will end and Ukraine ready to negotiate peace deal but first Ukraine’s partners must first make clear what security guarantee will be put in place

Zelensky saying the confrontation today wasn’t pre planned by either side

Does not want to lose US as partner to Ukraine

The discussions in front of the press should have been behind closed doors.

Told Trump don’t trust Putin. Says mineral deal is great idea but concerned that Putin doesn’t care

Happy for anyone to check where the US money /aid has been spent

Says his relationship with Trump can be salvaged. Very thankful and sorry

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I refuse to watch Foxtel.
What you’ve posted sounds like it was perhaps a politically unbiased interview.

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Yes.

Even in the US there was a protest planned to boycott Amazon etc - no purchases from corporations or online on Feb 28. Have not heard how that turned out, but the only thing these Rsoles respect is the $$$ they can get.

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I didn’t think it was politicised. BB asked the questions any journalist should have asked. He asked about an apology a few times. Zelensky did very well and got time to make his points.

It was compelling viewing given what is at stake for Ukraine and the war

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Of course, Zelensky would want security guarantees, but he (Ukraine) kind-of got those before from America the United Kingdom and… Russia, no less, in the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances.
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/ukrainenuclear-weapons-and-security-assurances-glance

We can all see how well that’s worked out for them. Ukraine should note the American First Nation people and learn that paper contracts are worthless when costs, profits, and greed are involved.

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What a champion Kaja Kallas is… Respect.

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I’m gunna post this one in its entirety.

Trump-Zelensky shouting match takes world leaders aback as Europe backs Ukraine

Agence France-Presse

Published Mar 01, 2025 07:55 AM PHT

Members of the Ukrainian community in Australia react as they hold photographs and flags during a vigil in central Sydney on February 24, 2025, marking the third anniversary of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Saeed Khan, AFP

PARIS — European leaders threw their support behind Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky after a raised-voice spat on Friday with Donald Trump sent shockwaves across the world, casting doubts over efforts to end the Russia-Ukraine war.

The US president openly berated Zelensky for not being “thankful”, and later accused the Ukrainian leader of “not being ready for peace” and having “disrespected” the United States in the “cherished Oval Office”.

Here are some of the political reactions from around the world.

EU: ‘new leader’

European Union chiefs Ursula von der Leyen and Antonio Costa assured Zelensky that he was “never alone”.

“Be strong, be brave, be fearless,” wrote the European commission and council presidents in a joint statement on social media, telling Zelensky: “We will continue working with you for a just and lasting peace.”

The bloc’s top diplomat Kaja Kallas questioned the United States leadership of the transatlantic alliance between European powers and Washington.

“Today, it became clear that the free world needs a new leader. It’s up to us, Europeans, to take this challenge,” she wrote on social media.

France: Russia the ‘aggressor’

French President Emmanuel Macron said that Russia was the “aggressor” in the Ukraine war.

“There is an aggressor which is Russia. There is an aggressed people which is Ukraine,” Macron told journalists, adding: “We were all right to help Ukraine and sanction Russia three years ago and to continue to do so.”

He later went further to say that “if anyone is playing at World War III, it’s Vladimir Putin”, referring to Trump’s accusations against Zelensky.

Germany: don’t ‘confuse’

Germany’s likely next chancellor Friedrich Merz assured his support to Zelensky in a posting on X.

“We must never confuse the aggressor and the victim in this terrible war,” Merz said. The outgoing Chancellor Olaf Scholz also voiced support for Ukraine, as did Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock, who added that Kyiv’s “quest for peace & security is ours”.

Hungary: Trump stood for ‘peace’

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban, one of the closest partners of both Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, thanked Trump for standing “bravely for peace”.

“Strong men make peace, weak men make war,” Orban wrote in a post on X.

Italy: summit needed

Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni called for the United States, Europe and their allies to gather over the Ukraine war “without delay”.

“A summit without delay is needed… to talk frankly about how we intend to tackle today’s major challenges, starting with Ukraine, which together we have defended in recent years,” she said.

Netherlands: support ‘undiminished’

“Dutch support for Ukraine remains undiminished. Especially now,” Prime Minister ■■■■ Schoof said on X, adding “we want lasting peace and an end to the war of aggression that Russia has started.”

Poland: ‘not alone’

Staunch Kyiv ally Poland moved to reassure Ukrainians after the dispute.

“Dear Ukrainian friends, you are not alone,” Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said on X in a post addressed to Zelensky.

Spain: ‘stands with’ Ukraine

Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez said his country would stand by war-torn Ukraine after the row.

“Ukraine, Spain stands with you,” Sanchez, a staunch backer of Ukraine since Russia’s 2022 invasion who pledged one billion euros of aid in a visit to Kyiv this week, wrote on X.

Russia: ‘cocaine clown’ Zelensky

“For the first time, Trump told the truth to the cocaine clown’s face,” said former president Dmitry Medvedev, now deputy chairman of Russia’s security council, referring to Zelensky.

Kirill Dmitriev, one of Moscow’s negotiators in the first high-level talks between Russian and US officials since the Kremlin sent troops into Ukraine, branded the spat between the two leaders as “historic”.

UK: ‘unwavering support’

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer stood with most European leaders to echo his support for Ukraine ahead of hosting Zelensky this weekend.

Starmer “is doing all he can to find a path forward to a lasting peace based on sovereignty and security for Ukraine”, a Downing Street spokeswoman said, adding he spoke to both leaders in the aftermath of the White House meeting.

Ukraine: ‘not possible’

Ukraine’s Prime Minister Denys Shmygal said Zelensky was “right” as “peace without guarantees is not possible”.

“Cease-fire without guarantees is the way to Russian occupation of the entire European continent,” Shmygal wrote on X.

Army chief Oleksandr Syrsky, who rarely makes political statements, also spoke out affirming the armed forces stood behind Zelensky, while calling for unity.

US Democrats: Trump ‘doing Putin’s work’

Senate Democrats accused Trump and his Vice President JD Vance of siding with Putin.

“Trump and Vance are doing Putin’s dirty work,” Democratic Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer posted on social media.

Other Ukrainian allies

Other Ukrainian allies rallied around the country, with Canada saying Kyiv was not only fighting for its freedom but also “ours”.

Denmark described its “pride” in supporting Ukraine while Sweden referred to Ukrainians as “friends”.

© Agence France-Presse

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Symbionts.

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NATO

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization, also called the North Atlantic Alliance, is an intergovernmental transnational military alliance of 32 member states—30 European and 2 North American.

Yes, well…
I think we’d best adjust that to read, 1 North American state.

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A bit more detail on the interview of Zelensky by Brett Baier. Zelensky is all class, Frump is all arse! That is a bit unfair, Frump is also all class, third class, that is.

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BREAKING: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy breaks his silence on Donald Trump’s disastrous Oval Office outburst with stunning grace and class — but refuses to apologize to Trump as demanded by MAGA.

And the best part? He did it on Fox News.

This is what a real world leader sounds like…

“President Trump said after your meeting that you disrespected him and the vice president and all of America in the Oval Office,” said Fox News’ Bret Baier when Zelenskyy appeared on his show. “Do you think you did? And do you think you owe an apology to President Trump?”

“Thank you so much. First of all, thank you for the invitation, for this dialogue and good evening to all of your country, to all Americans,” said Zelenskyy. “I’m very thankful to Americans for all your support. You did a lot. I’m thankful to President Trump and to Congress’s bipartisan support and I was always very thankful from all of our people.”

“You helped us a lot from the very beginning, here in three years of full scale invasion. You helped us to survive and anyway we are strategic partners,” he continued.

“And even in such tough dialogue — and I think we have to be very honest and we have to be very direct to understand each other because it’s for us very necessary,” said Zelenskyy.

“To President Trump — and with all respect that he wants to finish this war — but nobody wants to finish more than we because we in Ukraine we are in this war, we are in this battle for freedom, for our lives,” he went on.

“So I’m just telling that I think we have to be on the same side and I hope that the president on our side together with us and that is very important to stop Putin,” continued Zelenskyy. “And I heard from President Trump a lot of times that he will stop the war and I hope he will. And we need to pressure him with Europe, with all the partners.”

“And I think this dialogue had to be a little bit earlier to understand where we are,” he continued. “Like you know, I don’t remember exactly, but like President Reagan said that peace is not just the absence of war.”

“Yes, we are speaking about just, lasting peace, about freedom, about justice, about human rights and that’s why I said that ‘I think so’ to ceasefire,” he went on. “And you know Putin, he’s broken twenty-five times ceasefire during all these years, ten years.”

“So I’m not hearing from you Mr. President a thought that you owe the president an apology,” said Baier, clearly trying to pander to Trump who was almost certainly watching at home.

“No I respect the president and I respect the American people and if — I don’t know, I think that we have to be very open and very honest and I’m not sure that we did something bad,” replied Zelenskyy.

“I think maybe somethings we have to discuss out of media, with all respect to democracy and free media but there are things where we have to understand the position of Ukraine and Ukrainians,” he added. “And I think that is the most important thing.”

“We are partners. We are very close partners. We have to be fair. We have to be very free,” said Zelenskyy, sounding far more like an American president than Donald Trump did today.

This is an astonishing display of statesmanship. Rather than give into ego or pettiness, Zelenskyy is rising above Donald Trump’s childish bullying to serve his people.

Zelenskyy isn’t interested in following Trump down into the gutter. He’s interested in securing a lasting peace for his innocent embattled country, a task made all the more difficult by Trump’s kowtowing to Vladimir Putin.

Zelenskyy is also correct that these conversations should take place behind closed doors instead of being exploited to create a media circus. Trump and Vance ambushed him in the Oval Office in front of reporters because they knew that it would make headlines and entertain their base.

They are not serious leaders. Zelenskyy is.

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No truer words spoken CJ.
Well said.

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I’ll have a go at copying and pasting this little amusement.

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^The Trumpfish should look more like a blind mullet.

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Meanwhile, back in Ukraine:

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“Ukrainian defense forces destroyed a thermobaric ammunition storage depot belonging to Russian invaders in the temporarily occupied territory of Donetsk Oblast, in the Selydove area,” Ukraine’s General Staff stated.

The destroyed ammunition was stored kilometers from the front in the Pokrovsk sector, the main focus of Russia’s offensive for months.

“Based on the scale and power of the detonation, it can be assumed that the Russians could have stored thermobaric rockets for TOS-1A Solntsepyok heavy flamethrower systems at this depot, which are actively used at the front,” Militarnyi stated.

Source:
https://mil.in.ua/uk/news/potuzhna-detonatsiya-zsu-znyshhyly-sklad-iz-termobarychnymy-boyeprypasamy-na-donechchyni/

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The rest of Europe should just say ■■■■ it and admit Ukraine into NATO. No point relying on US any more, Europe needs to fully back Ukraine.

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Europe can’t unilaterally admit Ukraine because the US is part of NATO. Perhaps if the USA leaves NATO, it could happen.
Europe should admit Ukraine to the EC, though, although Hungary will try and put a stop to it.

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Putin won’t like that comment from his fascist mate.

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Can’t they just sign
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But seriously. If the Europeans, and sympathetic non Europeans got enough equipment. Could Ukraine end this war?

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It’s amazing how quickly that has taken root over here as soon as the threats of duties came.

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