Russian Anti Doping Goes Ape

The jnr diggers' gymnastics coach is Russian and a former world champion on the rings. Doping should commence any minute now.
Is their coaching stereotypically Russian? It's either the Australian Oly team archery or pistol shooting coach that is Russian and by all reports they're a cruel ■■■■■■■ lol
He's pretty demanding. Training is very structured and he places a strong emphasis on form. But he doesn't push them beyond their physical limit. It's all about gradually building capacity. Must have conditioning (say in a Russian accent) We're very lucky. He's the former WAIS men's high performance coach and the AIS have approached him several times but he doesn't want to live in Canberra.

Sounds very Russian lol
All their coaching of younger athletes is based around developing a wide skill set before starting to specialise in one particular sport
Their athlete coaching is also a lot different to the Western world as well. They go to uni to become say an ice hockey coach, and control everything including the strength and conditioning programs

Also reminds me of a story about a middle aged American guy that went to a weightlifting seminar in the US hosted by some Russian lifters/coaches. Paid $2000 to get told his technique was horrible and he should regress to wall squats (stand up against a wall facing it and squat basically) for 10-12 months lol


You know a bit about the Russian way.

That is exactly how Igor works. Super qualified. Handles everything. He could crack a human skull between his bicep and forearm. You’d like him

So how long until jnr diggers can throw diggers through a wall?

So how long until jnr diggers can throw diggers through a wall?
I reckon I've got their measure for another 6 and 8 years respectively.
Also reminds me of a story about a middle aged American guy that went to a weightlifting seminar in the US hosted by some Russian lifters/coaches. Paid $2000 to get told his technique was horrible and he should regress to wall squats (stand up against a wall facing it and squat basically) for 10-12 months lol
When I do wall squats my legs get tired after about a minute. I reckon I’d cramp badly after 10-12 months in that position.

■■■■■■ Russians.

A reply to: @yaco55 regarding QuoteLink
It's not really a case of WADA not having resources - it's a case of Countries federations and possibly the world federations colluding to keep results private.
I think the Spanish courts wanted to destroy the blood evidence from "operacion puerto", if IRC. They're a bit of a doping country.

cough Barcelona cough

Sangria is not a drug.

Did anyone else read Fatprick Smith’s article today on this? Astounded at what he wrote on Usain Bolt (coz he’s Russian and all…) and implied he’s on the juice because he’s so damned good.

I honestly don’t know how they can continue to get away with writing that sort of garbage. Just no responsibility whatsoever

Did anyone else read Fatprick Smith's article today on this? Astounded at what he wrote on Usain Bolt (coz he's Russian and all...) and implied he's on the juice because he's so damned good.

I honestly don’t know how they can continue to get away with writing that sort of garbage. Just no responsibility whatsoever

To play devils advocate: the Jamaicans do have a fairly poor recent record of failed tests by their sprinters, and their testing regime domestically is almost non-existent
I can’t remember if it was the WADA boss, but someone high up gave the Jamaiican anti-doping a fair old spray

Did anyone else read Fatprick Smith's article today on this? Astounded at what he wrote on Usain Bolt (coz he's Russian and all...) and implied he's on the juice because he's so damned good.

I honestly don’t know how they can continue to get away with writing that sort of garbage. Just no responsibility whatsoever

To play devils advocate: the Jamaicans do have a fairly poor recent record of failed tests by their sprinters, and their testing regime domestically is almost non-existent
I can’t remember if it was the WADA boss, but someone high up gave the Jamaiican anti-doping a fair old spray

Yeah, Mon.

Did anyone else read Fatprick Smith's article today on this? Astounded at what he wrote on Usain Bolt (coz he's Russian and all...) and implied he's on the juice because he's so damned good.

I honestly don’t know how they can continue to get away with writing that sort of garbage. Just no responsibility whatsoever


He came from nowhere at 20-21 to the world’s best at 22-23 and a massive whack of his training partners and team mates (Collins, Powerll, Marvin Anderson, Chambers, Yohan Blake) he’s had have been rubbed out. And as EB said, Jamaica have never done off season drug testing.

Every single other one of the top 4-5 fastest guys in history (Powell, Blake, Gay, Gatlin) has been done.

It makes zero sense that one clean guy is absolutely blitzing all these dopers by as much as he is. Zero.

You can keep holding onto it and be shocked & surprised when he gets done.

I believe Bolt is clean. Perhaps because I really want to believe he is clean. Surely he is subject to targeted off-season testing by WADA.

I believe Bolt is clean. Perhaps because I really want to believe he is clean. Surely he is subject to targeted off-season testing by WADA.

WADA don’t test anybody
It is up to the individual nation, and Jamaica are smart enough to not test very often

I believe Bolt is clean. Perhaps because I really want to believe he is clean. Surely he is subject to targeted off-season testing by WADA.

I have never thought he was clean. After the Ben Johnson brouhaha I dont believe an athlete can be that far ahead of the opposition on natural talent and training alone.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/11/russia-doping-drug-testing-standards
“Only 1 out of competition test leading into the 2012 okympics”


"They knew they weren’t going to be tested,” Conte said. “Jamaican doping officials basically gave them the green light to cheat as long as they tapered off before (in-competition testing) at the Olympics.”

http://m.jamaicaobserver.com/mobile/news/Former-IAAF-chief-Diack-charged-over-doping-corruption

I believe Bolt is clean. Perhaps because I really want to believe he is clean. Surely he is subject to targeted off-season testing by WADA.
It certainly beggars belief, but then again, look at the Russian fiasco.

How anyone with 2 brain cells to huddle together could be anything other than entirely cynical about any runners, riders or athletes is beyond me.

I believe Bolt is clean. Perhaps because I really want to believe he is clean. Surely he is subject to targeted off-season testing by WADA.

I have never thought he was clean. After the Ben Johnson brouhaha I dont believe an athlete can be that far ahead of the opposition on natural talent and training alone.

Is it entirely inconceivable that one athlete elevates himself above the pack and achieves greatness? Jesse Owens won four track gold at an Olympics and held one world record for 25 years.

I believe Bolt is clean. Perhaps because I really want to believe he is clean. Surely he is subject to targeted off-season testing by WADA.

I have never thought he was clean. After the Ben Johnson brouhaha I dont believe an athlete can be that far ahead of the opposition on natural talent and training alone.

Is it entirely inconceivable that one athlete elevates himself above the pack and achieves greatness? Jesse Owens won four track gold at an Olympics and held one world record for 25 years.

Completely different era. Those were the days when training methods made a difference and would elevate someone with natural talent. Home remedies were used, no one knows what was in them.
Not suggesting anything illegal or untoward because there wasn’t much that was illegal then except alcohol.

Did anyone else read Fatprick Smith's article today on this? Astounded at what he wrote on Usain Bolt (coz he's Russian and all...) and implied he's on the juice because he's so damned good.

I honestly don’t know how they can continue to get away with writing that sort of garbage. Just no responsibility whatsoever


He came from nowhere at 20-21 to the world’s best at 22-23 and a massive whack of his training partners and team mates (Collins, Powerll, Marvin Anderson, Chambers, Yohan Blake) he’s had have been rubbed out. And as EB said, Jamaica have never done off season drug testing.

Every single other one of the top 4-5 fastest guys in history (Powell, Blake, Gay, Gatlin) has been done.

It makes zero sense that one clean guy is absolutely blitzing all these dopers by as much as he is. Zero.

You can keep holding onto it and be shocked & surprised when he gets done.

Asafa Powell’s drug violation was and is a joke.
Another typical WADA effort of being overly heavy handed on what they knew was both unintentional and non performance enhancing.

As for Bolt, he won the world junior 200 as a 15yo (youngest ever) in a time of 20.51 and he holds the 6th fastest 400m for a junior ever.

He only really started focusing on the 100m in his early 20s. Until then it was primarily the 200 and 400 and he was outstanding at both.
To say he ‘came form nowhere’ is just wrong.

This is eerily similar to the arguments I used to have with Jimmy about L Armstrong.
Bent sports are bent. WADA’s bent, IAAF are bent.

And it simply doesn’t make sense that the #1 guy is clean but the #2 #3 #4 #5 etc guys are on something.

It’s a slur on Bolt until it’s proven. If every record breaker from this point on is to be treated with suspicion then we’re in a dark place on sport and should probably give it away.