You’re going to really enjoy success then when it does come, just like those of us who have lived through the winning decades.
3 Likes
You certainly can doom and gloom. You’re not wrong about that, I feel sorry for our younger favs who haven’t experienced success. But you bumped this thread late yesterday, after posting post after post of the same doom and gloom on the AGM thread. A bit repetitive that’s all.
1 Like
Thankfully I didn’t endure the 70’s! But you’re certainly right. The saga is something nobody should ever endure, on top of not winning a final.
1984 was that moment. A glorious, joyous moment that couldn’t have occurred in a more perfect way.
Barham is 100% spot on in suggesting that we have to forget about our history.
Our history could not be any more divorced from the reality of where this club is actually at.
We need to forget and move on, because the AFL and younger supporters are certainly forgetting and moving on from us.
The older generation harping on about the glory days is just cringey and pathetic. Nobody actually gives a ■■■■ about what happened 25, let alone 40 years ago in the football world. Well nobody except success starved flogs that support this club and have pathetically given up on ever seeing success again.
8 Likes
It was, and on reflection the journey getting there was great too. Just like 93 and 2000.
And no one can unequivocally say we aren’t on a journey right now to the next one…
1 Like
I guess we technically are. It just might be the destination is 10-15 years away.
1 Like
Could have said the exact same thing 15 years ago.
That’s the worry. There is nothing to really suggest that we are on any pathway to any form of success.
Our ladder position and off field clusterfucks support the suggestion that we aren’t.
4 Likes
Part of the problem has always been the way they recruited staff. The next good bloke walking past was always the first option.
They never had proper robust selection processes so we never knew if we had the best we could possibly get. And that includes all the coaching staff.
Then when they finally had a proper selection process for the CEO they demonstrated how bad and incompetent they were by selecting the Christian nutter. Clearly did no reference checks.
I am gobsmacked at how incompetent the club was in selection.
And if they were even half as bad in selecting players (and there is no reason to suggest they were any better) then the results are not surprising.
7 Likes
There is plenty if you choose to acknowledge it.
There’s none.
Our recruitment over the past 5 years still ■■■■.
Ladder position been utterly stagnant and terrible.
Current pres can’t even win over supporters and on thin ice.
Still sacking/ rehiring over and over.
What’s improved?
I think Guelfi is alright. The others you name, I actually agree with so I’m quite surprised
I’m fairly sure we’ve made 8-10 list changes every season since 2019 or 2020.
So I wouldn’t be shocked if we do the same again in 2025.
2 Likes
You are deliberately choosing not to acknowledge that the club has made decisions that will be helpful to improve the club.
It’s what you do and how you’re wired so no point in going any further.
1 Like
Yup of course that’s your response.
2 Likes
I agree. The old saying of its darkest before the dawn… A truism. At every darkest hour there appears no hope or future, until there is.
It can come quickly. Footy no different.
But the good times can’t come without a club that is stable, settled and has a strong established culture. That’s the starting and most important bit. Then competence is required and great decision after great decision over an extended period.
We are settled, united internally and are establishing a strong culture, evidenced publicly with the Stringer exit which could in time be that symbolic moment that the club turned the corner and emerged from its virtuous cycle of failure.
Glass half full here, hoping we’re back on track. Time will tell. But fir certain, we wouldn’t re emerge again if we bin another President, sack another coach and not give a new regime the chance to rebuild the club.
1 Like
Respectfully disagree, Alex.
Prior is 23, which is youngish. Every other new recruit is 18. Too early to tell but this hints at a youth based approach determined in part by a standards-raising coach that has at long last concluded the list needs an overhaul.
And the spearhead of said overhaul? He has a great track record and just as importantly, isnt Dodoro.
2 Likes
Haha nice one, I guess you mean the following ‘darkest times’ and the dawns that indisputably followed:
- 2009 when we played Michael Quinn in the fireardline and got spanked by 80 points
- 2013 when the supplements saga broke
- 2014 when we got beaten embarrassingly by drew Petrie in a final
- 2015 when Hird came back and resigned
- 2016 when half our team sat out
- 2019 when we resigned Worsfold
- 2021 when we lost Joe dan (our best player)
- 2022 when we sacked Rutten and made him cry in front of his family
- 2023 when our most revered person in recent history went on air to belittle our current coach
- 2024 when we had to pay a large sum of money to settle a dispute with a significantly underperforming manager
You mean all those darkest moments… and all the dawns we have had since then???
Odd that you would post that after saying 45 minutes ago we needed to forget our history.
4 Likes
watch it on YouTube,
a bloke called Hird could really play.
1 Like