Sorry Saga - “It’s actually quite funny people thinking they know more than they actually do”

And that’s the thing right there. Their silence has been bought and the afl has long tentacles. Their life outside of football and into the future would be determined by these people. Employment, opportunities, investments will keep them in the fold for many years to come and we may never get the truth from this fiasco.

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Was there any evidence that Thymosin {not tb4} was ever purchased by anyone at the club.?
Not including the Alavi compounding evidence.
Would not the End of Year Financial report show how much the High Performance unit cost in 2012,
this would have been before the SHOIT hit the fan .

5 years and we are still talking whether there is evidence of x, y, z.

5 years. Half a decade.

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What about moving to New York and probably not coming back?
Surely the AFL’s testicles (sic) don’t reach that far!

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I saw an article in the paper yesterday that suggested Jobe and Virginia are living in Melbourne - having the baby here. Anyway just FYI.

None whatsoever is my guess.

It depends who’s testicles we’re talking about

It is allowed to stand unchallenged solely because the rules do not allow a challenge on anything other than failing to apply the correct legal process.
The CAS panel knew it could get away with anything it liked, because the decision was unable to be appealed. They used sweeping unjustifiable assumptions to bridge the gaps in evidence (“thymosin” must be TB4, all players would have been getting the same supplements).
Had any challenge to the decision been possible, it would undoubtedly have been overturned.
WADA, and CAS, knew what the rules were, and what they could get away with, when the decided to appeal.

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Those same rules must also then, apply to the Essendon players and staff. Right? I think the AFL are protecting themselves. The AFL, knowingly, cleared Dank and Robinson to work at the EFC by covering up what happened or hiding under those rules. The proof is in the testimony of Boak, Dank and Robinson.

The AFL don’t have to protect Deano, hasn’t he has signed a “no speak” agreement as part of a compensation deal between the EFC and the AFL.

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Charters has disappeared into thin air, or is he in jail? Hearing what he has to say about TB4 at this late stage could be interesting. Remember ASADA offered him a position in ASADA for his silence.

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If financially backed Natd-Rat might have a crack at the AFL. It would be interesting to watch the tactics the AFL would employ to prevent any court action.

I suspect that is how Jess is thinking. If you can put the AFL in a position of go to court or pay hush money they will pay hush money every time.
Nat Rat gets $ Jess gets $ and AFL doesn’t go to court

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Whilst that may be how Jess is thinking, Natrat is a man of principle and he may have anothet agenda.

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In regard to his lordship Beloff; How about a class action from all the players but in an English court for negligence / damages. Could sell the story to the UK press, they love to bring down high flyers…at the very least that would embarrass the fark out of the blue blooded parasite

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What hope for IAAF integrity with Beloff and Clothier embedded in the IAAF integrity area. It would seem that Clothier’s evidence tampering with the E34 case either never reached the IAAF or stood him in good stead for the job.
And Beloff is also connected to IIC integrity area.
No wonder the International Federations are trying to block the Norwegian Minister’s proposals for WADA reform and for her succession to the WADA Presidency.

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This one. :slightly_smiling_face:

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While I doubt the legal basis of a class action against a judge for bringing down a verdict on the grounds that it is not justified by the evidence, I do like the sentiment. It would be nice to see him try to justify his weighing of the evidence. One can dream.

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CCHow corrupt is this system?
WADA appeals to CAS against FIFA ruling on length of doping suspension against Peruvian soccer player. CAS upholds appeal, meaning he cannot play in World Cup. Against a background of intensive lobbying, the player announces an appeal to Swiss Federal Tribunal for a stay of the suspension.
CAS announces that it will not contest his appeal.
Helps if it’s FIFA.
No such luck for E34. AFL - their employer- did not support them at CAS, but acted as a friend of the court. Well done Gleeson and AFL!

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The CAS ruling was the get out of jail card for the Gill gang else there was gonna be a round of please explain the AFL leaks and propaganda against Hird and the EFC34 going on at AFL house. IMO the CAS decision saved old mates job!!!

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And,absent evidence of the health and performance enhancement effects of TB4, there was no reason for the AFL to rescind Jobe’s Brownlow or to cancel Essendon’s appearance at the 2013 Finals.
There were no such CAS rulings to that effect.

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