This latest revelation about ASADA having no evidence for the use of AOD-9604 just tells me that they haven’t discovered all his supply chains, which surely are wider than Alavi. Therefore, they wouldn’t have a clue if he was also using Thymomodulin at Essendon.
As lost pilgrim said, there are enormous double standards at play here. You can bet your bottom dollar that if AOD was in fact banned then they would have pinged Watson for admitting to taking it with or without any evidence supporting it.
This latest revelation about ASADA having no evidence for the use of AOD-9604 just tells me that they haven't discovered all his supply chains, which surely are wider than Alavi. Therefore, they wouldn't have a clue if he was also using Thymomodulin at Essendon.
I just think it’s their way of discrediting Dank and “proving” that he was deceitful about what he was injecting the players with. It sets the scene for clandestine TB4 injections.
ASADA had nothing to lose by claiming AOD wasn’t found, it’s ok to take it anyway.
Quoted PostQuoted Posthttp://m.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/asada-dope-case-hinged-on-phantom-shipment/story-fnca0u4y-1227290645176 ASADA dope case hinged on ‘phantom’ shipmentChip Le Grand The Australian April 04, 2015 12:00AMPharmacist Nima Alavi
Pharmacist Nima Alavi supplied Essendon biochemist Stephen Dank.
The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority relied on vague and possibly fabricated evidence about a “phantom” delivery of peptides in its attempt to prove that a banned drug was used by Essendon footballers.
The claim came from a witness who had not mentioned the shipment in four previous interviews.
The AFL tribunal, which this week cleared 34 current and former Essendon players of doping allegations, expressed “grave doubts” about the authenticity of documents relied on by ASADA to show a second batch of peptides containing the banned substance Thymosin Beta 4 was shipped to the Melbourne pharmacist at the centre of the doping scandal.
Throughout the entire first year of its investigation, ASADA’s case was that Essendon players were injected with Thymosin Beta 4 contained in a shipment of Chinese peptides received by pharmacist Nima Alavi on December 28, 2011.
ASADA’s case was heavily reliant on information provided by drug importer Shane Charter and Mr Alavi, who under compulsion from ASADA provided documents and submitted to four interviews with investigators, in November and December 2013.
On April 14 last year, after ASADA’s investigations team had submitted its final report concluding that insufficient evidence had been gathered to prove the case against the Essendon players, investigator Aaron Walker was instructed by ASADA’s senior management to interview Mr Alavi a fifth time.
On this occasion, Mr Alavi told Mr Walker about a second shipment of peptides that had arrived from China about six weeks after the first. The only record of the shipment was a handwritten noted entered by Mr Alavi’s lab assistant in the pharmacy diary: “Thymosin 1g.”
When pressed for details, Mr Alavi produced certificates of analysis and other documents he claimed to have discovered in a storage facility.
The certificates of analysis secured by ASADA did not reveal the source of the peptides, when they were manufactured or who tested them. They also contained inaccurate molecular weights for the substances they purported to identify. The veracity of the documents was questioned by ASADA’s own expert witness, University of Sydney endocrinologist David Handelsman.
The tribunal, chaired by retired Victorian County Court judge David Jones, concluded the documents could not be trusted. “The tribunal has grave doubts about the authenticity of the certificates and, in particular, the Thymosin certificate,” the tribunal found.
According to the tribunal’s reasoned judgment handed down this week: “The ASADA CEO placed considerable reliance on the February certificates.”
Mr Alavi’s belated recollections about a second batch of Thymosin were slammed by the players’ lawyers. “It is submitted that, if anything, the evidence relating to this delivery is more vague, more imprecise and more generally lacking in documentary corroboration than the first delivery. There is no evidence about its origin, no invoices, email exchanges, international money transfers or claims for reimbursement. It is put that it is a ‘phantom’ delivery which seemingly appears out of thin air.”
The tribunal was not satisfied that the second shipment occurred; let alone that it contained Thymosin Beta 4. The tribunal was neither satisfied that the first shipment to Mr Alavi’s pharmacy contained Thymosin Beta 4 nor that the peptides were taken to Windy Hill by Essendon sports scientist Stephen Dank.
Gives you something to think about regarding the fraud angle, doesn’t it?
When I read that I don’t think fraud - I think corruption. After 4 interviews Alavi suddenly decides to tell ASADA about another shipment. That reads to me like Alavi was being coerced or enticed to sell us out.
I would favour the ‘I’m going to tell these dipshits what they want to hear to get them off my back’ scenario. 4 previous interviews. “Invited” back for a 5th at the pointy end. ASADA were badgering him. He just wanted it to end. Don’t need to look to far for the prime reason he didn’t want to swear to particulars of his interviews under oath.
Quoted PostYep. Fabricating evidence, manipulating evidence, omitting evidence. Not just disgusting behaviour, but surely lawsuit worthy. Dismantle the agency, shame the employees, ruin their lives as they tried to ruin others.I would encourage you to write more articles Chip. A lovely insight into how ASADA works.Nice rebuttal for Devitt McBen.
Worryingly, the very serious implications of Chip’s article about how ASADA conducted itself will be lost on a great many.
This smacks of lies and corruption and yet it’s others that are labeled as cheats.
This latest revelation about ASADA having no evidence for the use of AOD-9604 just tells me that they haven't discovered all his supply chains, which surely are wider than Alavi. Therefore, they wouldn't have a clue if he was also using Thymomodulin at Essendon.
or that they found out it was legal and decided not to bother investigating it properly, allowing them to push the whole, jobe obviously doenst know what he was injected with line, perpetuating the image of essendon as a chemical LABORATORY
note that they say that they havent found any evidence of “dank obtaining AOD for use at Essendon”
that just means they dont have any supply chain evidence… i thought the fact that it was used was pretty settled, it was on the consent forms and was never denied to have been given to the players… surely ASADA know its been taken
media is just using it to push the “no players know what they were given” thing
I worked in QC for the last 25 years of my working life, if i had pulled a stunt like this my feet wouldn’t have hit the floor on the way out and my name would have been known throughout the automotive industry, never to work again. The company I worked for would have been audited within an inch of their lives, subjected to loss of, or reduction of contracts and more than likely driven out of the local market. These people will just get moved to another government department or given a golden handshake.
Hi EveryoneI have made a video that looks at our journey the last few years and remind people that it was our strength, conviction, character and fabric as a club that came out the other end a more united and stronger club.
Hope you like it.
Like it? I LOVED it!
Awesome job CJohns.
I must be a sook. It actually brought tears to my eyes.
More good news coming soon, stay tuned
More good news coming soon, stay tuned
Confirmation of no appeal?
I would be absolutely stunned if they decided to appeal. But then again, I am stunned that it even made it to the tribunal.
WOB PLEASE
Is it good schadenfreude news/
On 31st i was in geelong hospital reading the local paper the geelong agoniser.
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/news/geelong/leading-cancer-scientist-says-multivitamin-pills-little-better-than-peptide-therapy/story-fnjuhovy-1227285647164
which brings up this item
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/news/vitamin-injections-no-worry-says-fremantle-ceo-steve-rosich/story-fnjbnts5-1226573646514
now im not saying they have done anything wrong.
The same infrerence from Asada used against us could be used against Freo ?
The certificates of analysis secured by ASADA did not reveal the source of the peptides, when they were manufactured or who tested them. They also contained inaccurate molecular weights for the substances they purported to identify.
I suspect Alavi was threatened and supplied inaccurate paperwork to sabotage their operation.
Just goes to show how dumb and incompetent the personnel at ASADA are to miss those details or they are staffed with people outside the necessary fields of expertise.
schadenfraud
Quoted PostExcellent!Chips latest Article re AOD is in line with the early rumour about dank ripping off the club and selling the drugs elsewhere. Still nobody has really investigated that criminal angle hard, maybe Chip is getting there.Don't be so sure about that.
And this all falls into line with what you posted fog about a day into the story breaking…farking 26 months ago.
Well done, you’ve been a beacon of hope for us since day one and am happy that your reliable info is starting to bear fruit for you. I know that you have copt some criticism throughout at times, especially on BF and amongst Essendon fans too there but I’ve found your info to be very helpful. I look forward to seeing you become vindicated soon. Thanks again and great work.
Let’s go and watch the footy now.
Quoted PostQuoted PostI would encourage you to write more articles Chip. A lovely insight into how ASADA works.Nice rebuttal for Devitt McBen.
Worryingly, the very serious implications of Chip’s article about how ASADA conducted itself will be lost on a great many.
This smacks of lies and corruption and yet it’s others that are labeled as cheats.Basically fabricating evidence, which we had seen from the AFL side of things, but more proof that it was ASADA’s MO as well. Pretty serious stuff.
Not just fabricating evidence, but destroying other evidence - what else could have happened to the records passed over to Deloittes? Even if the destruction was simply Amnesia forgetting which was the shredder and which was the filing cabinet!