Haha, an equine vet on all sorts of charges, has been called the equine equivalent of Dank
I think it would be very interesting if the players were to sue WADA/CAS for reputational damage in an actual court of law, in Australia. Lawyery types out there, could they do that? Surely if they went down that route, WADA/CAS would then have to prove that A: they intended to cheat, B: that the substance was banned at the time, C: that they actually had access to the substance, D: that they actually took the substance. It surely couldnât be too hard given what we all know for a real court to find that CAS â â â â â â up.
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They probably signed some iron-clad contract that they canât say or do anything in exchange for getting a relative pittance from the AwFL to shut upâŚ
But what has happened about NatRatâs case? He seemed to be the only one wanting to take some legal action.
Wasnât sure where to put this.
Was given Mick Warnerâs book, on a scale of 1 to 10 how outraged will I be?
Note: I have listened to the Connolly and Fine podcast; so I do have some inkling.
Hmm, outraged? I was a mixture of outrage, disappointment and acceptance. Predominantly outrage.
Am with @Hoffy re the book and will say I was so outraged at certain parts that I had to put the book down and wait until the rage had subsided before picking it up again.
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What would happen if they tried to break that agreement, thanks in advance
At a minimum, they would have to repay whatever they got as âcompensationâ. There may well be punitive clauses as well.
Worse, as we have seen, the AwFL does not hesitate to destroy peopleâs lives if it suits protecting their interests.
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Going to be an 8 part documentary detailing the events of the saga on kayo/ Foxtel in October. Someone told me thereâs solid 4 minute part where Jobe just speaks his mind.
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About time. Thanks for the advance notice.
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Meanwhile WADA and SIA (ASADA) have lost their appeal to CAS that the 2 year period of suspension of swimmer Sharna Jack was too lenient.
She was initially suspended for 4 years for testing positive to something in a contaminated supplement She went to CAS and got it reduced to two years.
Sharpe said the appeal was taken to get legal clarity in the length of suspension for accidental congestion ( the old McDevitt line of strict liability).
ASADA pursuit of her (at the behest of WADA) has cost Jack a tidy sum in legal fees with its vendetta and she missed the Olympics. Hopefully she can regain her place in the swim team
Wonder how much it cost the ASADA budget and whether it funded WADA as it did for the E34.
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Jobeâs Brownlow pain: Stripped medal is still mine
Jay Clark and Michael Warner
A defiant Jobe Watson says he never should have been stripped of the 2012 Brownlow Medal in a new Essendon documentary that lifts the lid on the clubâs darkest days.
Opening up on the toll of the devastating supplements saga, Watson declared: âIf I felt I had cheated, then I wouldnât have accepted the medal in the first placeâ.
Asked whether he still feels he is the deserved winner of the 2012 medal later awarded to runners-up Trent Cotchin of Richmond and Hawthornâs Sam Mitchell, Watson replied: âI feel like I am.â
âWhether or not someone else has it, or whether or not someone else views it that I wasnât the deserved winner then that is fine.
âBut it doesnât change how I felt or how I feel about it.â
It is 10 years this month since the ill-fated supplements program began that would trigger the greatest scandal in Australian sports history.
Watsonâs father, club great Tim Watson, said the âinjusticeâ of the decision to strip his son of the Brownlow because of a doping ban was âlike the final crushing thing about that whole episodeâ.
He said he âworriedâ about how his 36-year-old son would cope with the aftershocks of the saga âfor the rest of his lifeâ considering Jobe became âthe faceâ of the scandal.
âI found that (handing back the Brownlow Medal) the most difficult thing, that you could have that taken away from you without there being any ⌠I donât believe real justification,â Tim Watson said.
âIt has been a tough journey for him and, as a parent, it has been difficult at times to observe it close hand. Injustice is a very difficult thing for people to get over.â
Asked how he reflects on the experience, Jobe was adamant he had âforgivenâ and âmoved onâ but said his overall emotion was âsadnessâ.
âIt has been really challenging,â Jobe Watson said.
âI look back on it and wonder how I was able to get through it.
âIt was such a drawn-out process and moved so much from one extreme to another and emotionally â it was just exhausting.â
Former Essendon chairman Paul Little, who likened the drugs saga to âa warâ, said he hoped the 2012 Brownlow would eventually be returned to its rightful owner.
âIâm hopeful one day it will be reinstated,â Little said.
In an eight-part documentary series titled âThe Bombers: Stories of a great clubâ, to be aired on Fox Footy and Kayo from October 19, former Bombers president David Evans speaks for the first time about the drugs scandal and admits mistakes were made in dealing with the saga.
âSome things in hindsight that you would have done differently, but there was no playbook for it,â Evans said.
âThis was something that we were thrust into that there was no precedents.â
Evans led the fateful decision at the start of the saga that saw the Bombers âself-reportâ to the AFL and Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority, triggering a five-year storm.
Coach James Hird said âwhat happened to Jobe was horrificâ.
âI donât believe anything they took (was) illegal,â Hird said.
âI certainly donât believe that Jobe got any unfair advantage during that year and should definitely still have his Brownlow.â
Watson in 2013 opened up on the supplements program, saying âhaving that many injections was something I had not experienced in AFL football beforeâ.
The late legendary club doctor Bruce Reid, who wrote a letter of complaint to club chiefs about the injections program, said Watson should not have been stripped of the medal.
âJobe Watson should still have his Brownlow,â Reid said.
Essendon champion Matthew Lloyd said Watson had masked the pain.
âIâm sure that eats up at him, as much as he doesnât show it,â Lloyd said.
Former coach John Worsfold said: âHe was the one, even after the suspension happened, who was still trying to be (the) strongest and hold that group together, and be that leader.
âHe was probably the one we felt was the most vulnerable to the big let-down.â
After a break from the game, Watson, a two-time All-Australian and three-time best and fairest winner, has returned to football in a special comments role with Channel 7.
Essendon chief executive Xavier Campbell said the whole drugs affair was âheartbreakingâ and particularly unfair on Hird, who was a âreally good personâ, and Watson.
âHe (Watson) was put in a really difficult position. That was unfair on him, it should never have happened. And that shouldnât, and wonât, define Jobe Watson,â Campbell said.
Campbell said the club had sought closure on the saga.
âThe Essendon network didnât fracture,â he said.
âIt could have (fractured) at so many different moments.â
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So it sounds like the saga is touched upon but will probably just be one episode, or part of an episode.
Oh goody. Club marks day of start of 150 year celebrations.
Heraldsun: Yeh but remember the saga and Jobe losing his Brownlow?
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The documentary series which this is from, is from the club though.
If itâs on Foxtel, it will be supporting the AFLâs narrative, certainly not doing an expose of how they stitched up EFC, its players and coaches. They will of course âleave out the bits we donât needâ.
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Agreed.
Does anyone know if the club has something like a brownlow medal honour board at The Hangar, and if so, if they list Jobe on it?
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Yeh but is the 8 part doco on the saga completely or mostly on the clubs history with a segment being on the drug saga? If the latter, then why the need to point that part out in an article?
Ah yep, Iâm with you now. And the twitter comments that you posted probably answers the question!