Sponsorship and Sport: Coming to a Head

Repeating for emphasis.

It couldn’t apply better to this situation

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Bigger problem in Australia is that corporations are notoriously tight at providing sponsorships no matter whether it’s sports or the arts - You cut out too many possible sponsorship partnerships then some sports or arts will be surviving on bread crumbs - So ultimately it may be us consumers of sports and the arts that suffer.

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I can deal with the energy ones, but God I hate the betting ones, one of the reasons we severely limit any sport on TV in the house. I wish the betting ones would go away at whatever the cost.

I don’t have the ability to boycott but Qatar, the world cup are all on my ■■■■ list for different reasons, happy to see them fully excluded from sport. From F1 to the world cup.

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You’re at the coalface? I get the feeling that no matter what clubs or sports do, it’s going to upset a significant section of the community. The challenge of staying viable whilst combating a growing sense of self-righteousness out here will be some balancing act. In the rush to appear progressive, sport may be painting itself into a corner.

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The sportswashing backlash is to some extent being led by athletes in team events.

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There never seems to be any room for the idea of picking your battles in this conversation.

Some Essendon Sponsors

Fujitsu - Air Conditioners full of HFC/Chemicals, Tubby Taylor
https://www.google.com/search?q=air+conditioning+climate+change
Essendon is helping killing the planet

AMart - Chopping down trees, cheap Chinese made plastic furniture
Essendon is helping killing the planet

Yakult - Yogurt, Milk, Cows, farting, methane, nuff said
Essendon is helping killing the planet

CUB - Making beer on an industrial scale is one of the most water wastage industries
Hence Essendon is helping killing the planet

Border Express - Massive polluting diesel trucks driving around everywhere
How can the EFC Board sleep at night? Essendon is helping killing the planet

Toyota - The only major car company to shun electric vehicles and continue to pump out “hybrids” instead
Essendon is helping killing the planet

McDonalds - Them BigMacs don’t give a cow man
Essendon is helping killing the planet

Powercor - Don’t even start
Essendon is helping killing the planet

Harris HMC - Don’t even know who they are or what they produce but no doubt complicit in Essendon helping killing the planet

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The scale of damage done by a company like Woodside make them different to a lot of other companies that people point out as false equivalences.

All sponsorship aims to build goodwill, many use it as advertising for their goods or services (duh). Someone like Woodside aren’t trying to sell anything through their sponsorship, they’re simply trying to buy a social licence to operate. So I think athletes not wanting to have their labour exploited for that is very reasonable and not a case of self-righteousness.

Also the carbon footprint concept was popularised by BP as a way of shifting responsibility for the climate crisis onto individuals rather than the big emitters. Excusing Woodside, Santos, Alinta et al because someone flies regularly is a dog ■■■■ argument. Particularly in the case of people who use those necessary evils to help build their profile, a profile which gives them a platform to try to change things.

Fremantle and Cricket Australia would easily find replacement sponsors if they dropped Woodside/Alinta. Of more concern is the reliance on gambling advertising to prop up the tv rights deal in the AFL and what will happen once that bubble bursts.

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would they though? cricket aus maybe but freo probably won’t find one as lucrative. it’s why this conversation will last as long as it will. does the pr goodwill offset the loss in actual $$? there’s not a lot of sponsor cash out there at the moment

i saw it remarked somewhere else online that gambling is to australia what guns are to america. by and large our population is oblivious to the impact it’s having and can’t see a way out of it’s looming presence

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I’ll give you my pokies when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.

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Gambling addicts are less than 1% of the population in Australia.
But allegedly about 400 suicides a year are a result of gambling issues.

In USA, number of guns per every 100 people is 120.
Over 20,000 deaths in USA are gun related each year.

Conclusion is that while both matters are serious issues, guns in USA is much more so and not comparable to gambling in Australia.

Pro capital population numbers should be used. Bumps up suicide numbers to ~6,000.

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I reckon Australian has more undiagnosed if you like gambling addicts and alcoholics than almost any other comparable place on earth.

It’s just an ingrained part of culture that everything’s fine.

Which maybe it is. I drink and buy lottery tickets

I reckon lots of things, as well, but most is just a guess.

You have no evidence for this. Our gambling industry is just about the most highly regulated in the world. No minimising the effects on gambling for some. I know more than one bloke who have lost everything because of horses or Pokies.

But to make any comparison to gun use and violence in USA is absurd.

Isn’t the comparison just about the cultural role it holds?

Having worked at a pokies place 15 odd years ago, I’ve got views on the damage they do to some. But that’s a separate discussion to the way that sports betting companies are ingraining themselves with the football supporting/viewing experience.

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Other than on average Australians lose more per person than any other country on earth to gambling?

Or according to this website Australia has the highest rate of alcoholism for women.

Australians have an issue with booze and gambling.

We have a higher rate of sexual and physical assault for any comparable western country.

That’s statistics. It’s not an attack on one persons ability to enjoy a drink or gamble some money.

There’s a casinos worth of poker machines in every suburb. The drinking is served up right alongside.

And the problem is ???

That is easy to explain.

yes because death is the only adverse effect

Hmmm, I guess not if you are Hindi and know you will eventually become a butterfly.