This thread is turning out as bad as the politics thread or our match threads… if you like Star Wars, keep out.
Are you sure that’s what you meant?
for someone that dislikes beancounters your chosen footy team was spawned by them.
You’re stuck in the 80’s, maaaaan.
I fundamentally disagree with a lot of this but it’s pretty obvious that you’re not one for turning, and that’s totally fine (seriously). Movies are subjective after all. It was not a perfect movie and had lots of flaws (some of which you mentioned and I agree with).
Again, I don’t think it was a perfect movie. Not by a long long long shot. All I said is that it had better themes than ROS and it will age better. I stand by that.
Ultimately though that won’t matter to those who were annoyed that Luke Skywalker became an interesting character (for the first time in five movies) and there was an Asian woman who was a bit annoying and stuff.
She was terrible.
Must be a thousand Asian actors out there that would’ve been better.
You realise I made that statement sarcastically right? But thanks for proving my point!
The Star Wars movies are far from a paragon of good acting.
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Rise of Skywalker did the basics- Errol Flynn swordfights, Battle of Britain dogfights, Metropolis/Power Ranger/Dark Crystal aliens and I felt it was a little wittier than some recent efforts. So I won’t ask for my money back.
But is that how you finish my 42 year film marathon? With an ongoing and complete rejection of the dramatic and logical impacts of death? In brief and no particular order…
- Chewy is in an exploding spacecraft. Survives without a scratch after much anguish and no explanation.
- Ghost Han comes back for a good old post death chat- not just a Kenobi four word whsiper, but a real old natter.
- Ghost Luke, who died in fairly ridiculous fashion from overwork in the last episode, is able to raise an X-Wing from underwater while deceased.
- Leia also dies from overwork after arranging for her son to be distracted and killed on another planet.
- Rey next kills Kylo then heals him back to life.
- Rey is killed then Kylo uses his force power to bring her back to life, but this is also highly stressful so he dies (unless it was her kiss that did it)
- Palaptine comes back to life, and as @Crazy_Bomber explained, tells Rey to kill him so he can control her, she refuses then he is promptly killed but does not possess her
- C3PO lays down his life, to general disinterest, then comes back with a wiped memory (is this a kind of death?) to further disinterest.
So what is the point? Nothing’s final, everyone can be put through a mincer then just walk on in the next scene. It drains drama out of the whole film. Number 9 deserved better.
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All the characters dieing from overworking 
not sure if anyone has seen this, but imo its better than what we got
The Colin Trevorrow script for Star Wars: Episode IX has reportedly leaked online, and with multiple outlets having independently verified the story beats, the details sound legitimate. They also sound like a nice time at the movies.
Trevorrow was originally set to direct the final Skywalker Saga film, but left the project in 2017. Later that same year, Disney announced that J.J. Abrams would return to the Star Wars universe to direct Episode IX . Abrams’ Rise of Skywalker turned out to be a disappointment for many. The leak makes clear that Trevorrow’s Episode IX was at least set to go in a very different direction.
The leak comes by way of a thread on the Star Wars subreddit, r/StarWarsLeaks — which had accurate info on Rise of Skywalker months before its release. The post on the subreddit links to a YouTube video created by filmmaker Robert Meyer Burnett who breaks down the entire script in a video that stretches on for well over two hours. Since the video was published, both The AV Club, and The Playlist have cited their own sources that verify the authenticity of the story.
This version of the script was written by Trevorrow and his frequent writing partner Derek Connolly. Despite the fact that both writers received story credits on the final version of The Rise of Skywalker, the Trevorrow and Connolly version of Episode IX was titled, Duel of the Fates , inspired by the Phantom Menace music cue by John Williams, and took an entirely different approach to ending the series.
What would the Trevorrow Cut have reportedly looked like? The film’s opening crawl explains that, after the events of The Last Jedi , the First Order has continued to spread throughout the galaxy. In hopes of cutting off the Resistance, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has blocked communication between neighboring systems. Early in the film, while Rey continues her Jedi training and attempts to figure out what the future of the ancient order will look like, Leia formulates a plan to save the Resistance.
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The First Order in The Last Jedi
Image: Lucasfilm/Disney
As the script rolls along, Rey continues her Jedi training and explores the galaxy with Poe and BB-8 to search for answers on how to fix the Jedi order. Kylo still goes to Mustafar, just like in Rise of Skywalker , but in this version he finds a Sith Holocron with a hologram of Palpatine — the only time he appears in the film. The hologram was originally intended for Darth Vader, and sends Kylo to train with Palatine’s former master, Tor Valum. Tor Valum — a ripped, 7,000 year-old Lovecraftian alien — trains him briefly, but Kylo leaves to find Rey when he’s defeated by a vision of Darth Vader in a Force cave, similar to the one on Dagobah.
Kylo and Rey eventually cross paths on a planet called Mortis and begin to fight. Rey believes some part of Ben still exists in Kylo, but she falters when he admits that he killed her parents on the orders of Supreme Leader Snoke. Near the end of the fight Force ghosts of Luke, Obi-Wan, and Yoda appear in hopes of saving Ben Solo, but he’s too far gone he is “extinguished.”
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Rey and Kylo fight in The Rise of Skywalker
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This storyline shares a few similarities to the Rise of Skywalker story Abrams put on screen. It’s not hard to imagine how the director and his writing partner Chris Terrio could have morphed Tor into Palpatine to avoid introducing a new character, but bringing back an almost certainly dead one wound up being a whole lot more confusing. It’s also worth noting that in Trevorrow’s version, Ben Solo isn’t redeemed and dies as Kylo Ren, essentially the same place he was in near the end of The Last Jedi .
Reportedly running in parallel, Finn and Rose head to Coruscant to light an ancient beacon hidden under the old Jedi temple to signal the galaxy that it’s time to rise up and fight the First Order. After they light the signal, Finn rallies an army of defected stormtroopers and oppressed citizens — finally showing us that he’s embraced his role as a Resistance leader — and they fight the First Order in the streets of Coruscant while a space battle rages above with ships from all over the galaxy arriving to aid The Resistance.
Finally, just as Rey defeats Kylo, the Resistance and its allies triumph over the combined might of the First Order, bringing down their ships and armies over Coruscant and ending its rule of the galaxy.
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The Jedi Temple on Coruscant
Image: Lucasfilm/Disney
Of course, had this script actually been filmed, there’s no telling how it would have turned out. Trevorrow’s Jurassic World blew up at the box office but didn’t sit well with critics; his passion project Book of Henry went over so poorly that it’s the reason many believe he exited Episode IX . At the time, the studio’s statement was that Lucasfilm and Trevorrow had mutually agreed to part ways. However, in 2018, Collider reported that Star Wars producer Kathleen Kennedy had been unhappy with Trevorrow’s script for the film.
But even with the lingering doubts about whether or not Trevorrow could have pulled it off, for fans who were disappointed in The Rise of Skywalker , this Duel of the Fates script is a nice glimpse at what could have been.
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Well, he actually isn’t in the transport that Rey destroyed. He was in a second one. It’s a clumsy scenario/reason but it was actually explained.
More broadly, tend to agree with you. The ability to revive the dead suddenly seems somewhat commonplace.
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All i remember is a collective roll of the eyes in the theater when that scene happened lols what a stupid dumb secne
Looks like the Obi Wan/Ewan McGregor TV adaption will be delayed.
Lots of talk around Jar Jar Binks returning, which is almost a certainty, at some stage, given the theories which have been confirmed over the last 5 years.
Explained in full here:
- Chewy was in a different aircraft, and yes it was mentioned.
- I thought this was average, but I’d suspect this was meant for Leia before Carrie Fisher died. Can hardly hold that against them.
- Jedi force ghosts or whatever you call them have been around since the very first movie, this is hardly a new concept.
- Again, Carrie Fisher died. What else could they do? Just not mention her again for the rest of the film and hope everyone just assumed she was on the toilet?
- C3PO is a ■■■■■■■ robot…
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Jar jar died on alderaan
pulpy space fiction isn’t literary masterpieces of acting and people are suprised here.
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So did G Lucas’ reputation.
Finally caught up with it.
So as a trilogy the Kylo and Rey story arc is really the only thing its got going for it. There seems to be very little else of consequence that happens to the others and they end in pretty much the same place they started. And is it just me or is the new order kind of just forgotten about. I don’t really feel a thread that runs through these 3 movies that makes the story indispensable to the rest of them.
Hux turning out to be a resistance mole just made no sense really and came out of nowhere. That could have been an interesting arc and pay off if it he been written into to the rest of the trilogy but it came across as an afterthought much like sticking Palpatine in there frankly.
As a stand alone film this was enjoyable enough but it suffered from the same problems the others did. The tone at times felt off, it lacked connection to everything else, pacing was a bit all over the place and over all it laked a sense of jeopardy.
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