In memoriam. Australian Journalism. Judd Wept

I like how Buckley handles himself in the media.
Much respect.

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I do agree with Buckley, but it is not confined to footy players. Journalists do the same to everyone.

Most dishonest bunch of turds, I have ever met. They make politicians, insurance sales and assassins look nice. No exceptions, all sing from the same song book.

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Geez, look what happens when there no saga to invent. Joint falls apart and people start jumping ship. Reckon their “blackest day in sport” delayed it by a couple of years.

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The AFL would be quite happy with these scumbag journalists/communications specialists, as they help create the 24-7 news cycle that they’re so desperately pushing. The wellbeing of their coaches and players is irrelevant, because they don’t believe they are more important than money, and the journalists are just the afl’s ■■■■■, but they think so highly of themselves. It makes me sick.

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he’s absolutely right tho

Odd from buckley considering how much the media’s loved him the last few years.

Watch the AFL use the BA as justification for further intrusion: “Well, they get paid x amount now, so a little more openness to the public is to be expected”.

This is a line from Slobbo’s article on Blight in today’s Herald-Scum:
“Bringing the kids in to replace the veterans was seen as spilling the most purest of Crows blood, but it worked.”

Bugger me sideways with a broom-pole - a year 11 English student wouldn’t make that mistake. This guy’s their “football chief writer” ferchrissakes!!

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The most worst might.

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Footy Classified was good when they had a segment with media vs a coach or club representative where the coach would mainly critique the media representative on their job.
I think it lasted a year then was scrapped. Probably because the media guys just couldn’t handle the scrutiny.

The Bucks segment was the closest Classified has gotten to that segment. What Bucks said was exactly what was said back then. It is still occurring because general public get sucked in by that crap.

Half of us even got sucked in during the saga of a commercial that showed a small 5 second grab, then to watch the program and be disappointed by only an extra 25 seconds of that grab then 5 minutes of bullshit discussion.

It’s amazing watching how all the shows on the different stations feed each other and become the story. This happens weekly (and has been going on for more than a decade) because there is such a big gap between games, there is nothing to talk about and any informative game plan information just isn’t popular enough to capture a market / advertising.

People need to either ignore the rubbish or take it for what it is. Bullshit gossip that just gets continually regurgitated.

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Easy fixed.
Get rid of about 80% of wannabe journos with their fantasy opinion pieces, and let them find a job they may be good at. Report on footy when there’s something to report. In between those times - find something else to talk about. It doesn’t have to be about footy. I have absolutely no sympathy for these hacks who all want to jump on board the media gravy train - the ‘kingys’ and ‘moonies’ and ‘dermies’ and anyone else who needs to have an introductory label against their name to remind people how many goals they once kicked or how many times they played in a grandfinal. And as for the flogs pretending to be at the hard-hitting coal-face of journalism - the lanes and wilsons and robbos and ralphies and assorted fucktards who think they are upholding the banner of the ancient age-old honourable profession of journalism - fark off and die you scavenging mongrels - wouldn’t miss you if you disappeared forever, and the footy world will be a lot better for it

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You definitely are the shy retiring type.

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(haven’t pasted the link as it’s subscriber)

And right on cue/queue, taken out of context and spinning it. Woe is us, it’s the fault of Club’s that we need to jump out at players in the carpark, stick a camera in their face etc, etc, because they don’t give us enough access.

We would move on if they gave us more access. Of course you would, just like you all did with the Hird family.:grimacing:

Fair dinkum, I reckon the main criteria to become a journo/communication specialist is to lack comprehension.

Nathan Buckley made valid point but AFL fans want greater access, writes Jon Ralph

NATHAN Buckley taking vast sums of money to criticise the media he works for was always going to get the fourth estate hot under the collar.

Buckley’s discussion on Footy Classified on Monday night made for riveting television as he condemned the use of doorstop interviews by TV journalists.

The Pies coach hates the kind of carpark doorstop interviews that see players forced to reluctantly answer questions on the run.

Although not enough to boycott programs that use that technique.

It was hard not to see Buckley’s attack as a double standard given he has been part of the media through long associations with the Sunday Herald Sun, Channel Seven, Fox Footy and Channel Nine.

He would have made more out of the media over his career than most of the kids being told by bosses to “doorstop” players.

The very reason Footy Classified pays Buckley so much to appear is to generate provocative content in the absence of access to the stars of the game.

But Buckley is right in that the media do at times take players and coaches out of context.
When a coach gives a 20-minute interview or press conference it can be impossible to distil all he says an all-encompassing and balanced 30-second sound bite.

The media makes its share of mistakes and sometimes misrepresents quotes because it rates or sells papers.

The race to the bottom in a click-bait society is often unedifying as media companies desperately try to stay afloat.

It doesn’t mean Craig Hutchison’s central tenet — that AFL media access is ridiculously restricted — isn’t still true.

No one wins from ambulance chasing and muck raking.

Wider media access would actually benefit the fans and players most.

In the NBA every player is available in the locker room for one-on-one or group chats before every one of their 80-plus games for the season.

In the AFL the normal routine would see a coach available for a weekly press conference, selected players available for a 3-4 minute chat post-game and selected players giving radio interviews.
The in-depth and revealing chat that reveals a player’s character, motivations and beliefs is still a very rare thing.

Which means the best part of talking to players — finding out what makes them tick and conveying it to the fans — almost never happens.

When a controversy breaks, it runs for a week because the player involved is almost never available to discuss that subject.

When they are available, it actually helps a club move on quickly.

Case in point — Melbourne’s Tom Bugg.

Post-match he spoke on 3AW radio to put it into context (he and JJ are mates).

Then he spoke to Fox Footy in a doorstop where he explained he had personality and wanted to use it.

Case closed, media moves on.

If the media was given access to all players pre or post-match the doorstop interview would disappear overnight.
Daniel Wells was smashed for six months for coming back unfit and overweight from the pre-season.

It was only when he sat down in an in-depth interview to reveal his reason — a religious pilgrimage to Israel — that it put his reason in context.

Fans want inner access.

They want to get to know their players, and not just through some club-sanctioned website.

Players with a personality and a platform use the media to their benefit because the fans actually see they aren’t boring automatons.
Patrick Dangerfield is an open book who Geelong fans have come to adore because is open and honest in his weekly appearances.

Only when the Sunday Herald Sun hired Trent Cotchin as a paid columnist did he bare his soul about himself in a column that totally altered perceptions of him.

Nick Riewoldt’s ESPN columns are riveting insights into him as a person and the torture he goes through to get his knee ready to play each week.

Yet the majority of AFL players are closed books, shut off from the fans through restrictive media policies.
How can they hope to reveal their personalities in a five-minute radio interview or 90-second website chat?

For Buckley to suggest Collingwood’s website does a thorough job of covering the club was just ridiculous.

It gives a club-sanctioned, overwhelmingly positive view of Collingwood that never asks the hard questions.

As Buckley said, it is “on our terms”.

Does he believe a club’s own website would fearlessly report the Gubby Allan controversy, the Jordan De Goey controversy, the Lachie Keeffe and Josh Thomas controversies?

Of course not.

The media are often their own enemy as they furiously compete to be first, to be right, to be heard.

But greater media access helps the players develop their brand as well as appearing as who they are — fully formed humans with weaknesses and vulnerabilities, but also wonderful personalities that deserve to be showcased.

I love 'Roaming Brian".

Have to admit it is a pretty good racket.

Nothing dramatic happening in your field? No pain to exploit, drama to escalate?

Start writing articles about the media!

This wouldn’t have anything to do with new agreement just signed would it? Softening everybody up for the Dangerwood channel?

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This man speaks for me.

I read that, and thought "I am losing it, I don’t remember writing that, but I must have ".

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Issue is there are more accredited AFL journos than players. They are all doing their best to further their careers which means us as the end user end up with a serious amount of rubbish articles. There should almost be a ban on non game related AFL reporting.

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