Track and field

Son got Vaporfly’s a few months ago (also at the Nike factory outlet). He runs a couple of marathons a year and loves them.

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At the moment I’m thinking they won’t be stable enough for me to run a marathon in, but who knows. In nowhere near the sort of KMs and fitness that that matters!!

I used to laugh when someone would say the great thing about running was that it was free. Gosh, the money I spent when I was running marathons! :laughing:

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9.74, but a very strong tailwind.

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Gout’s 19.67 officially ratified by World Athletics as the U20 record.

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Good for the sport for Duplantis to lose.

Cam Myers was leading his race and got overtaken in the straight.

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These kids keep popping up with incredible times.

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I worry about times in the NCAA as there is only limited drug testing. My theory about the faster times, especially in endurance events is nutrition. Athletes are pumping themselves with loads of carbohydrate gels in training and also in races to build their endurance. Actually, I reckon nutrition is under-valued in the AFL sphere.

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Carb gels won’t help performance over 800. And they aren’t illegal/a drug testing problem.

I have no greater concerns about college times from a drug testing perspective than any others.

800 times are absolutely affected by a number of factors that make the middle distance world so much more competitive than in the past.

  • Super spikes
  • Bicarb (now digestible, reduces lactic buildup)
  • Broccoli sprouts
  • Creatine

All of these supplements are “legal”. And they all make a difference. All of the top athletes take them. College middle distance runners will be on them, and hence the times that these you get athletes are running.

I am 100% certain that most of the AFL will be on these, and will be all over fuelling requirements. I do wonder if Essendon might be less inclined to use as much as other clubs.

Essendon might still be Musashi (but not listed as a partner on the website), while other clubs seem to be sponsored by Pillar, SIS, BSc, INC, Elite Supplements, Kiva Wellness etc etc)

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I think the difference is the shoes. (but not in performance in ability to train and recover)
Athletes are able to run more miles due to legs not being beat up as much after hard sessions.
Some even doing double session days
Nutrition plays a part but recovery between hard workouts has sped up, plus all the 1% around this - saunas, feeback from labs - lactate testing etc.

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Nomio - even good local runners looking into and taking this.

Lance Armstrong with the Feed also helped bring nutrition to the fore with the triathlon community. Triathletes are usually the first adopters.

Yeah, Nomio, I just thought I’d leave the branding out, but that seems very common.

All of this stuff helps differently for different events. There would definitely be advantages for a bunch of this in AFL as well as for the fuelling strategies that keep the marathon runners going for 2 hours (100g carbs per hour seems “normal” at the higher level)

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I remember a park footballer who took up running.

his pre footy routine was having a foot long sub in the morning before his footy match.

Then he kept up this when he started running race events.

He has since changed his pre race meals.

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Do you mean under 800?
They’re a staple of endurance athletes.

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As in “an 800m race”, which was the context of yacos post. Ie he was talking about a college 800 time then rolled into talking about carbs. I was trying to highlight what 800 runners were taking and how that was different to the endurance athletes who load up on carbs as part of their race fuelling.

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In that context I can’t imagine intra-race carbs helping at 10km or under.

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From my experience most people don’t bother with stuff under 10kms
Caffine is still a big stimulant for pre race Coffee, No doze etc, nomio a big one too

under 5 kms don’t take a drink
10kms take on drinks
half marathon taking carbs/gels and drinks
marathon more carbs/gels - last one caffine, some salt tables, i’ve never tried them

Ultras - start off eating more real foods turn to carbs and coke end of race if available, for me anything chips, chocolate, protein bars, sandwiches, gels, etc but the order is important not to get sick in the guts

Triathlon
sprint - for me nothing but sports drink on the bike (but have seen people take gels on start line)
half ironmans- key for me was taking on liquid nutrition on the bike and then whats available on the run - coke/sports drink / nutrition
Ironman - need to be weary of having too many gels and getting sick, lack experience here (Haven’t done one, but have heard horror stories of too many gels)

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