Exactly. you only embarrass yourself by making definitive statements that you ultimately collapse from.
That first rounder is very likely worth less Magical Fairydust points than those two second rounders, so thatās not a sweetener for GWS.
(See our and Footscrayās trades last year for examples of relative values.)
Yeah, Iām talking about Tim, not Josh.
Itās purely hypothetical because Tim is going west and Wingard isnāt coming to us, but theyāre both āarguablyā first rounds.
Iād take those two separately over two firsts for Shiel.
Maybe just me.
Even if GWS knows full well we wonāt give two firsts they have to say as much thatās what they want.
Members/fans want to know they fighting for best value for their player.
This is not a situation where if we donāt offer two firsts they wonāt release him. They are pushing him to a degree.
Still believe thisā¦
You tell me what it means, and Iāll tell you what it means.
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Yes please. It sounds like weād need more cash and another 1st round pick.
Would be the fastest club ever!
Nah, a salary dump would more likely be an overpaid underachiever along the lines of Buntine. Just as long as it aināt Tim Mohrā¦
Nothing would make me happier than somehow convincing Setterfield to change his mind and come to us with Shiel. Would be the ultimate ā ā ā ā you to Carlton. The salt they would have would be glorious.
P.S. Fark Carlton.
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When pies talked Treloar into leaving GWS for pieland what was the 1st thing you thought - I wish we could convince a player like Treloar to come to us; or geez they have to pay 2 x 1st Round picks which could set their development back?
I thought the latter, but in hindsight it was probably a good move as Treloar was still young. Shiel is middle aged and has 4 good years left, maybe 5 or 6 if his body holds up. I think Shiel is worth #9 + a 2nd rounder.
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Iām all onboard for this.
Two firsts?
Weeeeeell, maybe if you were sending us Setterfield as wellā¦
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Rate your level of surprise if Dusty never played another game of AFL.
Even more surprising than the Libs winning the next Federal election.
Lol.
Soā¦not particularly?
Exactly
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Fair chance an in-principle deal has been more or less hammered out, but GWS may not yet have all the components to hand to make a definitive trade.
I canāt see them taking more than four or five picks in this draft. Griffen retired, then some or all of Shiel traded, Lobb traded, Finlayson traded, Setterfield traded. Thereās a fair chance theyāll have at least three 1st round picks and some of their likely 2ndās and beyond will be superfluous. In which case we will likely be pushing for one of those back. Actually, It also makes anyone (including us) trying to offer a 2018 2nd round as part of a deal somewhat problematic. Unless they can trade them up, they may not want them.
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Iād like this.
I want Mitch Grigg, so a pick upgrade would be handy.
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Ben Long
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Iād be astounded. As I said, youāre underselling or donāt realise how professional he is in season.
Itās great that he trains hard.
Personally, Iād goā¦āhuh.ā
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