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AFL trade 2014: AFL bans Sydney Swans from trading players in
 

EXCLUSIVE

Sydney has been told it cannot trade any players into the club this year or next unless the club is prepared to bring about an instant end to the cost of living allowance.

The Swans are extremely unhappy with the AFL directive, which also prevents the club from recruiting any restricted or unrestricted free agents to the club before the end of 2017.

It means the club will only be able to replace a player who seeks a trade out of the club with a draft pick or picks.

The Swans lost Nick Malceski to Gold Coast as a free agent this week, and have young forward Tim Membrey on the way to St Kilda.

Following discussions last month, the league wrote to the Swans last week confirming the club's recruiting would be restricted to draftees, delisted free agents and promoted rookies.

Should the club choose to pursue a restricted or unrestricted free agent, or trade a player in, its COLA payments would cease immediately.

As it stands, COLA will be phased out over the next two years and replaced in 2017 with a new rent subsidy that will be paid from the league to lower-paid players.

The AFL's position is that it is helping Sydney manage its contractual obligations this year and next by phasing COLA out over a period of two years.

It says allowing the club to bring senior players in on the same conditions would destroy the purpose of the 'phasing out' process.

Sydney chief executive Andrew Ireland said the club had hoped to change the league's mind, given COLA was put in place by the AFL and the Swans had never had a choice but to pay it.

"We're not happy about it, we don't understand it and we'll continue to talk to them about it. We think we're being penalised for complying with AFL rules," Ireland said.

"The only way we've been able to recruit players in the past is by losing other players and creating enough salary cap space to bring players in, like every other club.

"We haven't broken any rules, we've complied with the AFL's rules and this is their rule. The only reason players have received COLA is because the AFL has said we have to pay it.

"It wasn't optional. We argued for it and we believed we should have kept it, but in the end they put the rule in place and we had to comply."

Sydney was able to lure Lance Franklin as a free agent last year on a huge contract, but the club made room for him by losing Jude Bolton, Shane Mumford, Jed Lamb and Andrejs Everitt.

The club might lose Membrey to the Saints for nothing, given it has secured the rights to three Academy players in the draft.

The Swans are holding their own second-round pick and the one they received for Malceski's departure, and do not need any more picks.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-2014-afl-bans-sydney-swans-from-trading-players-in-20141009-113sba.html#ixzz3FcqP34tM

 

 

Whoa!

507

This may be remembered as the year that the AFL officially lost control of the game.


The AFL brand is shot.
508

Bang!
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-from-trading-players-in-20141009-113sba.html
AFL trade 2014: AFL bans Sydney Swans from trading players in
EXCLUSIVE
Sydney has been told it cannot trade any players into the club this year or next unless the club is prepared to bring about an instant end to the cost of living allowance.
The Swans are extremely unhappy with the AFL directive, which also prevents the club from recruiting any restricted or unrestricted free agents to the club before the end of 2017.
It means the club will only be able to replace a player who seeks a trade out of the club with a draft pick or picks.
The Swans lost Nick Malceski to Gold Coast as a free agent this week, and have young forward Tim Membrey on the way to St Kilda.
Following discussions last month, the league wrote to the Swans last week confirming the club's recruiting would be restricted to draftees, delisted free agents and promoted rookies.
Should the club choose to pursue a restricted or unrestricted free agent, or trade a player in, its COLA payments would cease immediately.
As it stands, COLA will be phased out over the next two years and replaced in 2017 with a new rent subsidy that will be paid from the league to lower-paid players.
The AFL's position is that it is helping Sydney manage its contractual obligations this year and next by phasing COLA out over a period of two years.

509

Wow. I hate Sydney, and suck sh*t.

But how can the AFL do that? Seriously?

WTF IS GOING ON WITH OUR GAME?

510

Bang!
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-from-trading-players-in-20141009-113sba.html
AFL trade 2014: AFL bans Sydney Swans from trading players in
EXCLUSIVE
Sydney has been told it cannot trade any players into the club this year or next unless the club is prepared to bring about an instant end to the cost of living allowance.
The Swans are extremely unhappy with the AFL directive, which also prevents the club from recruiting any restricted or unrestricted free agents to the club before the end of 2017.
It means the club will only be able to replace a player who seeks a trade out of the club with a draft pick or picks.
The Swans lost Nick Malceski to Gold Coast as a free agent this week, and have young forward Tim Membrey on the way to St Kilda.
Following discussions last month, the league wrote to the Swans last week confirming the club's recruiting would be restricted to draftees, delisted free agents and promoted rookies.
Should the club choose to pursue a restricted or unrestricted free agent, or trade a player in, its COLA payments would cease immediately.
As it stands, COLA will be phased out over the next two years and replaced in 2017 with a new rent subsidy that will be paid from the league to lower-paid players.
The AFL's position is that it is helping Sydney manage its contractual obligations this year and next by phasing COLA out over a period of two years.


My initial reaction was ■■■■ you Sydney, but then I thought what right does the AFL have to do that to a club. The AFL started the mess, Sydney just took advantage of their incompetence.
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Bang!
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-from-trading-players-in-20141009-113sba.html
AFL trade 2014: AFL bans Sydney Swans from trading players in
EXCLUSIVE
 


My initial reaction was fark you Sydney, but then I thought what right does the AFL have to do that to a club. The AFL started the mess, Sydney just took advantage of their incompetence.

 

Copy and paste of the Melbourne tanking mess. AFL rules are in place. Club exploits them. Public opinion shifts. AFL punishes club for acting within its own rules.

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Can someone explain the cuddles jokes with Footscray?

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Bang!
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-from-trading-players-in-20141009-113sba.html
AFL trade 2014: AFL bans Sydney Swans from trading players in
EXCLUSIVE
 


My initial reaction was fark you Sydney, but then I thought what right does the AFL have to do that to a club. The AFL started the mess, Sydney just took advantage of their incompetence.

 

Copy and paste of the Melbourne tanking mess. AFL rules are in place. Club exploits them. Public opinion shifts. AFL punishes club for acting within its own rules.

 

 

True, but #farkSydney.

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Sack â€‹all the coaches. Break all the players contracts.

Line all the players up against a wall. Nominate captains and they can take 1 pick each in turn. Old school rules.

 

Melbourne will somehow still get to take 2 picks though. And Sydney will get all the lunch money

 

Sounds great and in the interest of equalisation the AFL can intervene at any time and refuse a pick or in the case of incompetent drafters like Melbourne we will pick for you. Each player will be signed for one year and salary will be structured based on which round you were picked. After 10 rounds there will be a mid season trade period where again the AFL can intervene and swap players with the view of having each team winning 11 games each at the end of the season. All players re-enter the draft for next season and the system repeats. Teams no longer have names and are referred to by colours. Sounds far fetched but the way the game is going components of the above will probably be introduced by the time I am gone.

515

I think we won guys, Paddy can't go to sydney after all.

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Bang!
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-from-trading-players-in-20141009-113sba.html
AFL trade 2014: AFL bans Sydney Swans from trading players in
EXCLUSIVE
Sydney has been told it cannot trade any players into the club this year or next unless the club is prepared to bring about an instant end to the cost of living allowance.
The Swans are extremely unhappy with the AFL directive, which also prevents the club from recruiting any restricted or unrestricted free agents to the club before the end of 2017.
It means the club will only be able to replace a player who seeks a trade out of the club with a draft pick or picks.
The Swans lost Nick Malceski to Gold Coast as a free agent this week, and have young forward Tim Membrey on the way to St Kilda.
Following discussions last month, the league wrote to the Swans last week confirming the club's recruiting would be restricted to draftees, delisted free agents and promoted rookies.
Should the club choose to pursue a restricted or unrestricted free agent, or trade a player in, its COLA payments would cease immediately.
As it stands, COLA will be phased out over the next two years and replaced in 2017 with a new rent subsidy that will be paid from the league to lower-paid players.
The AFL's position is that it is helping Sydney manage its contractual obligations this year and next by phasing COLA out over a period of two years.

Wow, that's pretty ■■■■■■■ harsh.

517

I think we won guys, Paddy can't go to sydney after all.


Not yet
518

Way too much power.

519

Can someone explain the cuddles jokes with Footscray?

Crameri and McCartney had/have a very close relationship.

520

Suck on that Peter Gordon you fat piece of ■■■■.

 

Bigger exodus from Bulldogs than the Bombers.

 

Maybe next time you should look at your backyard before slinging ■■■■ at ours!

521

The letters "AFL" stand for "What is this I don't even"

522

Wow. I hate Sydney, and suck sh*t.
But how can the AFL do that? Seriously?
WTF IS GOING ON WITH OUR GAME?


AFL overly concerned with "optics" at the expense of good processes again.
Incredibly moronic.
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http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2014-10-09/from-the-president-gordon-on-griffen
I have today read a statement issued by Ryan Griffen‘s management. It requires clarification.
Ryan Griffen raised with me some concerns about our Senior Coach the day after our best and fairest. I then organised for him to immediately relay those concerns to our Chief Executive, Simon Garlick. We both took Ryan‘s concerns very seriously as did Brendan McCartney when he was informed of them.
We arranged for Ryan to meet with Brendan and our Football Director, Chris Grant, and they discussed his concerns. Brendan acknowledged some faults and agreed to work on them. At the conclusion of the meeting, Chris asked Ryan if he was happy with the meeting and agreeable to working with Macca on an ongoing basis.
Ryan answered yes to both questions and added that while he was on leave he wanted to reflect upon whether he was best suited to captain the Club in the future.
Having returned to Australia on Tuesday night and without any further discussion with us after giving that agreement, Ryan informed us that he had changed his mind. We were also informed that he was seeking a trade to GWS – with whom we now understand he was in communication during this time.
We are extremely disappointed at his approach and have no intention of indulging it.

 

LMFAO!!!!

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Bang!
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-from-trading-players-in-20141009-113sba.html
AFL trade 2014: AFL bans Sydney Swans from trading players in
EXCLUSIVE
Sydney has been told it cannot trade any players into the club this year or next unless the club is prepared to bring about an instant end to the cost of living allowance.
The Swans are extremely unhappy with the AFL directive, which also prevents the club from recruiting any restricted or unrestricted free agents to the club before the end of 2017.
It means the club will only be able to replace a player who seeks a trade out of the club with a draft pick or picks.
The Swans lost Nick Malceski to Gold Coast as a free agent this week, and have young forward Tim Membrey on the way to St Kilda.
Following discussions last month, the league wrote to the Swans last week confirming the club's recruiting would be restricted to draftees, delisted free agents and promoted rookies.
Should the club choose to pursue a restricted or unrestricted free agent, or trade a player in, its COLA payments would cease immediately.
As it stands, COLA will be phased out over the next two years and replaced in 2017 with a new rent subsidy that will be paid from the league to lower-paid players.
The AFL's position is that it is helping Sydney manage its contractual obligations this year and next by phasing COLA out over a period of two years.

Ah, the old "Not A Good Look" rule

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AFL trade 2014: AFL bans Sydney Swans from trading players in
 

EXCLUSIVE

Sydney has been told it cannot trade any players into the club this year or next unless the club is prepared to bring about an instant end to the cost of living allowance.

The Swans are extremely unhappy with the AFL directive, which also prevents the club from recruiting any restricted or unrestricted free agents to the club before the end of 2017.

It means the club will only be able to replace a player who seeks a trade out of the club with a draft pick or picks.

The Swans lost Nick Malceski to Gold Coast as a free agent this week, and have young forward Tim Membrey on the way to St Kilda.

Following discussions last month, the league wrote to the Swans last week confirming the club's recruiting would be restricted to draftees, delisted free agents and promoted rookies.

Should the club choose to pursue a restricted or unrestricted free agent, or trade a player in, its COLA payments would cease immediately.

As it stands, COLA will be phased out over the next two years and replaced in 2017 with a new rent subsidy that will be paid from the league to lower-paid players.

The AFL's position is that it is helping Sydney manage its contractual obligations this year and next by phasing COLA out over a period of two years.

It says allowing the club to bring senior players in on the same conditions would destroy the purpose of the 'phasing out' process.

Sydney chief executive Andrew Ireland said the club had hoped to change the league's mind, given COLA was put in place by the AFL and the Swans had never had a choice but to pay it.

"We're not happy about it, we don't understand it and we'll continue to talk to them about it. We think we're being penalised for complying with AFL rules," Ireland said.

"The only way we've been able to recruit players in the past is by losing other players and creating enough salary cap space to bring players in, like every other club.

"We haven't broken any rules, we've complied with the AFL's rules and this is their rule. The only reason players have received COLA is because the AFL has said we have to pay it.

"It wasn't optional. We argued for it and we believed we should have kept it, but in the end they put the rule in place and we had to comply."

Sydney was able to lure Lance Franklin as a free agent last year on a huge contract, but the club made room for him by losing Jude Bolton, Shane Mumford, Jed Lamb and Andrejs Everitt.

The club might lose Membrey to the Saints for nothing, given it has secured the rights to three Academy players in the draft.

The Swans are holding their own second-round pick and the one they received for Malceski's departure, and do not need any more picks.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-trade-2014-afl-bans-sydney-swans-from-trading-players-in-20141009-113sba.html#ixzz3FcqP34tM

 

 

Whoa!

 

Woweee.

 

And the AFL thought that we were litigious! Restraint of trade anyone.

 

GWS continue as you like.

 

Whilst I don't like the COLA thing and believe the measures put in place for younger players is fair enough, are the AFL forgetting that Sydney have lost Mumford, White, Malceski, LRT (retired), Okeefe (retired). Whilst I have no doubt COLA was being abused the AFL create the rules and allowed that to happen, as long as they are balancing the books and will be prepared to re-structure future contracts to deal with COLA being removed then I say fair enough. Sydney are the masters at recruiting.

 

Me thinks that Sydney had deal for Paddy Ryder done and AFL needed a way to not allow that to happen.