Training Report - 1st Feb 2019

Not sure how to take the direction this thread is taking…

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I’m (seeing) hoping for Rory Sloan out of Parish.

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Are they though? Jobe was elite. Is Darcy at or near that level? Wouldnt have thoughts so. Solid AFL footballer. Accumulator. Limited upside. Young enough for the uninitiated to overpay. Expectations are high for a top 5 pick and the reality is that he hasn’t delivered, and doesn’t look like taking his game to an elite standard although I’d love to be proven wrong.

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Jobe was best in the league, ‘top 3 of the past 2 decades’ good. Pretty rough comparing the two. Did James Kelly/Sloane have any elite weapons? No they just were/are damn good footballers.

Why do you have to include that he was a high draft pick? That was 3 seasons ago and it doesn’t matter any more.

For arguments sake, I believe he is tracking well compared to other top 5 picks. He hasn’t been one of those rare C.Oliver, Zerrett, Judd type kids who just go to AA level very early but not many are. He’s a pure footballer who hasn’t been physically ready to play as an inside mid at AFL level consistently…but we’ve definitely seen it in bursts. Now he looks like he’s filled out and reports suggest he’s running very well, so I fully expect him to thrive over the next few seasons.

To be honest I’m surprised you don’t rate him. He’s clearly shown some elite qualities in small bursts.

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Hey now… Myers just won the most improved in his 11th season. Parish is travelling just fine.

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I remember Hepp used to have a great field kick

what happened

I like him a lot. I agree he has great hands. He also has a football brain.

The major shortcoming is that he’s not a goalkicker. 30 metres out, clear of opponents, not much of an angle, and he’s still pretty much guaranteed to miss.

He’s not the only one. It still amazes me that we don’t seem to have a specialist kicking coach and don’t spend a lot of time drilling correct technique into the players so that it becomes automatic. It’s the most basic and most important skill of the game.

There will always be the psychological side, especially when shooting for goal. (Who would really want to be 40 metres out on a 30 degree angle with a set shot after the siren to win — or lose — the Grand Final?) But if the correct technique is ingrained and there’s an established and set routine for taking a set shot, you’re going a long way to having much better kicking all over the field.

But we don’t do that. Why not?

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I think it’s because we are still complacently basking in the afterglow of John Coleman.

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As a kid you dream of kicking the goal to win the game. At the park we pretended all the time. Not that it got me anywhere.

Also listen to champion players talk about those situations, they want the ball and want the responsibility.

For those in the know is actually true that we don’t have a specialist goal kicking coach or is this just a blitz fallacy?

Considering how important conversion is it would be unlikely.

If we do have a goal kicking coach who has been overseeing the last couple of seasons, he should be sacked.

I would be interested in seeing the stats on our conversion rate.

Considering we are one of the better sides if not the best side at marking inside 50 set shot goalkicking should be a priority.

He lost confidence when he realised he can’t mark either.

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No we don’t.
Although Matty Lloyd is available to our players if they wish to use him.
It is a very rare thing across the comp actually.

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Yeah people overplay it because Hawthorn had one in their premiership years. All of a sudden everyone needs one.
kicking is largely a lot better than generations past but add in fatigue, congestion and the overall velocity of the game and errors happen.

Yeah, I suspect we are no better or no worse at converting than any other side.

I assume most supporters across the league complain about it.

Something I love about him and I think he has been doing before we drafted him is how he always get his arms up and out of the way of opponents as soon as he gets the ball. Even if he gets tackled, his arms are free to get a handball away.

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Yes.