he’s not a new coach. we’ll be playing the same game plan as last year (that failed) by the sounds.
what cjohns said is concerning. our ball movement last year was the worst i have ever seen it.
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There aren’t enough goals in our forward line to be a threat this year.
Backline is on its last legs. Hooker, Hurley & Ambrose won’t play every game.
It’s a development year for us Nino. Which isn’t a bad thing.
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That’s because you had 2 senior coaches where the message was getting confused imo
Yeah agree but I don’t see us bottom 4 or anything like that and being worse than North and Hawks that most on here seem to think.
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we will just have to hope that they are getting it built in at a slower pace to get it right then start speeding up in the coming 6-7 weeks.
On paper, we have a strongly talented midfield. But our 2021 performance will be very dependent on the fitness of a couple of key players - Stringer and Heppell, in particular. We have very few proven goalkickers. Our defensive stocks are all fringe-level journeymen or at the extremes of age demographics and this will be a major weakpoint. And we look to be doubling down on the disastrously awful gameplan we ran last year.
I think we could very easily finish bottom 4 if only a small number of things go wrong.
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I am not suggesting bombing it long is the answer by the way. Good teams have the ball moving with more 30-40m kicks to targets and limit short sideways kicks or kicks to corners where you forced to kick long and opposition are well setup. Its intent of faster decisive movement forward. I hope thats what we are in fact intending or trying to do
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Thanks for your thoughts. I had interpreted the drill differently, but since I wasn’t there I am more concerned now.
Reading @nackers posts I had imagined that the drill was about the player getting the ball turning quickly, making a decision quickly, and executing. That the movement was short kicks, but it wasn’t slow. That the players up field were running to predictable spots and the movement of the player with the ball were quick and predictable. There was no going back, and kicking over the mark, but rather the guy who takes possession turns and executes at 45 degrees (and if the opposition moves off the line that should be 50 with the new ruling).
I took it that we were practicing this to actually move the ball quickly, as for years if we’ve taken a short option there was no movement ahead of the ball, and we’ve stagnated and ended up either taking a risky kick, going backwards, or hoofing it down the line.
Practicing the quick movement by foot has a lot of benefits if you can make it continual rather than becoming stagnated, and has been a massive missing piece in the puzzle of our game plan. You can’t cut an opposition up with handball, because the ball carrier gets pressure and it ends up with the ball being dumped to the spare defender. Similarly cutting an opposition up with run and gun is much harder, as it changes your shape behind the ball and leads to much more broken play (and puts you at risk when you do turn it over). If you can make those 45 degree kicks you can retain your defensive shape, you get an opportunity to execute your kicks not under pressure, and you can move the ball faster than the other methods. But it needs repeated practice so that the players in front of the ball are all moving quickly and to the right positions, and it requires the players with the ball to believe and okay on instinct. Mark, turn, know that there will be a player there, execute, move to your next spot in the structure in case there’s a turnover, go. Repeat.
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Didn’t a few of the training watchers on here saying the club is focusing on forcing turnovers when defending?
If only you could have asked Rutten about this…
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Yeah, but we thought it was the opposition turning it over, not us!
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Bottom 4 I’m hoping
I hate optimism!
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Bloody hell I had been highlighting the comment on my phone and then it would pop up with quote and then let me reply to it😂
That was only because the chat bubble disappeared awhile ago on my end up just checked then and it’s back!
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Agree with your concern CJ however, what I’m noticing is that at present they seem to be going short from half back to the middle of the ground to give midfielders a little extra time to form a “wave line” to then have numbers to sling shot the ball to leading forward targets. Hope I’m right!
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You have been potting us non stop and now you’re all for questioning why can’t we jump up? I mean im all for it but jeepers BilpolarNino much haha
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Which one though. The game plan the way we executed vs Collingwood (at least from half way through the 1st until 3Q time) was a game plan that would legitimately work in September. If we’re aiming to bring a whole heap of elements of that, but make a few tweaks to add resilience to our execution of it, then it might actually work…
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If we were ever going to completely ■■■■ the bed, and finish bottom 4, this would be the year to do it.
If Merrett leaves (Hopefully he doesn’t), we get the compensation pick after ours too.
Might have 2x top 5 picks in a super draft.
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Atleast we don’t have Saad to just bomb it long…
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Thanks for your thoughts. I had interpreted the drill differently, but since I wasn’t there I am more concerned now.
Reading @nackers posts I had imagined that the drill was about the player getting the ball turning quickly, making a decision quickly, and executing. That the movement was short kicks, but it wasn’t slow. That the players up field were running to predictable spots and the movement of the player with the ball were quick and predictable. There was no going back, and kicking over the mark, but rather the guy who takes possession turns and executes at 45 degrees (and if the opposition moves off the line that should be 50 with the new ruling).
That’s more what I’ve noticed at training. Maybe different days they practice different ways on moving forward.
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