Maybe, maybe not normally. But for anyone who is doing that with subordinates, and in a public facing job? Hell yes (if its verified as creditable).
And I’m not sure if grabbing a woman physically to kiss her when she doesn’t want it is ever acceptable. I’d personally say you need a decent amount of flirting before that becomes acceptable.
Should it rule him out of future jobs? Probably not, losing one is sufficient penalty.
No. To believe this you would have to believe in a competent plan by Trump, a conspiracy of silence (when his administration leaked like a sieve), and that he would be willing to appear weak.
Or, you can believe that he is selfish enough that he also wanted a vaccine dose just to make sure.
I know which one I find more believable.
Giving food / water is going to be a misdemeanor.
*except in Australia.
Hmm, let’s see:
“Gil served as the lickspittle to Fat Vlad…”
Yes, you’re right. It is satisfying. But doesn’t go far enough.
What if he (or someone else if you want to remove the authority figure aspect) was genuinely under the impression that they had been flirting and as such, went in for a kiss on the lips, while to the surprise of the initiating party, the other party hadn’t actually perceived their interactions as flirting and was shocked and felt as though they’d been assaulted. The initiating party is surprised but doesn’t push things any further, apologises and moves on.
If the recipient of this approach felt so inclined to take it further, should the initiator be charged with something in your opinion? In this case let’s just say they are two random people.
If in a workplace setting, if they were both on the same level as employees should the initiator lose their job?
It’s odd, isn’t it? It’s dismissive, direct, doesn’t require swearing, and leaves the person in absolutely no doubt how contemptable you find them. It’s a fantastic word.
Look, there are times when people will take actions and innocently get it wrong. That happens. But context matters. Were they flirting? Was it reasonable to expect it to be reciprocated? How surprised is the person? Is this a one-off? Where and when did it occur? Is the person in a relationship? Has the recipient given any indication they would find it acceptable?
It appears from the incredibly scratchilly detailed descriptions above that Cuomo has a history of doing this, doing this with people he wasn’t flirting with, who had no reason to expect or want the advance, and where it was consistently unwanted. Extremely sketchy behaviour from anyone when its being repeated. Add in the power dynamic as the boss, and well then it is completely beyond the pale.
With perhaps even more examples to come. Who knows?
I won’t defend his actions, nor will I condemn them. I will simply say, an accusation, even multiple ones, doesn’t mean the man is guilty, hence why we have the dictum innocent until proven guilty and leave it at that.
I’d suggest that after making such a mistake the first time, most people would be particularly careful to avoid making the same mistake again. The fact that it seems to be repetitive behaviour is a significant red flag and suggests that this is more than a simple miscommunication.
Mind boggles that people are confused about kissing on the lips at a work place.
It’s not ok in almost any scenario you try to paint.
Poorly worded but I didn’t mean actually at a work premises. I meant if talking about two work colleagues on the same level (i.e. No authority figure aspect) just out at a bar.
The bar would have the same legal issues around it as at work.
Even Facebook friends who are bullied counts towards workplace bullying.
So two co-workers are at a bar.
Again…
One of them (could be either male or female) is genuinely under the impression that the two of them had been flirting and as such, went in for a kiss on the lips, while to the surprise of the initiating party, the other party hadn’t actually perceived their interactions as flirting and was shocked, mortified and felt as though they’d been assaulted. The initiating party is surprised. He/she had obviously misread things terribly but doesn’t push things any further, apologises and moves on.
If the recipient of this approach felt so inclined to take it further, should the initiator be charged with something in your opinion? Lose their job? Cop a formal warning?
So that we don’t get the ‘we need more context’ response I’ll add Ants earlier queries as context. Let’s say they’d worked with each other for a year, it’s the first time it’s happened and neither are in a relationship.
Instead of going in for the kiss, perhaps the person should talk about their interest first?
In my day we held hands first.
Will speak for myself - things that I thought were perfectly normal as part of the “wooing” process were clearly not. Makes me cringe to look back.
The added wrinkle is that this is a Governor and scion of a powerful family that we are talking about. The power dynamics make it even more urgent that he be held accountable.