US politics - never go full Project 2025 (part 8)

[Albert_Thurgood]

@chris_64

The rest of the qualified voters who did not turn out are just as bad, or should I say, are apathetic

No, not quite: many millions in red states were disenfranchised by Republican dirty tricks.

[theDJR]

@Shahid_Afridi

It was actually about 25% of Americans who voted for Trump.

@chris_64

You got me, 50% of the voters who actually turned out to vote. The rest of the qualified voters who did not turn out are just as bad, or should I say, are apathetic

C’mon, man(s)…

@theDJR

I calculated just less than 30% voting for Trump from 77,284,118 votes from 262,083,034 of voting age (albeit 20 million of those have been stripped of the right to vote, and others who could register haven’t).

Neither major candidate got to 50% of the actual votes.

The 2024 Election by the Numbers | Council on Foreign Relations

Federal Register :: Estimates of the Voting-Age Population for 2023

The USA is quite selectively democratic.

[barry_day]

War plans ahead of strikes isn’t classified information. I love how they contort themselves with their lies.

[The_New_Coleman]

They are digging a bigger hole for themselves by trying to justify what happened.

If Trump was in the group, he would have just said: “Look over there, right now I’m sending a cargo plane which will fill Greenland with fluorescent puppies”, and everyone would immediately forget about the stupid thing he just did in favour of the newer, stupider thing.

[Loflyer]

They’ve made some enormous, catastrophic errors, but to date they’ve mainly been on purpose or, you know, funny, like firing people in charge of nuclear weapons etc. This time it’s as naked a blunder as you could imagine.

But it will go away, and there’s just as likely a possibility that it’s another deliberate act to destabilise and invite chaos.

[Humble_Minion]

@Loflyer

But it will go away, and there’s just as likely a possibility that it’s another deliberate act to destabilise and invite chaos.

I’m reminded about what Mark Felt/Deep Throat said about watergate. “The truth is that these weren’t very smart guys, and things got out of hand”

I don’t think this is likely deliberate in any way. These are just people who’ve made political careers out of being loudly ignorant and too arrogant to learn, demonstrating what happens when you have ignorant arrogant people in charge.

[bobo]

@barry_day

@mattmfm.bsky.social on Bluesky

This wouldn’t be good either.

“Our confidential communications system is so secure that someone with no hacking skills can get in easily and without detection”

[Loflyer]

@Humble_Minion

@Loflyer

But it will go away, and there’s just as likely a possibility that it’s another deliberate act to destabilise and invite chaos.

I’m reminded about what Mark Felt/Deep Throat said about watergate. “The truth is that these weren’t very smart guys, and things got out of hand”

I don’t think this is likely deliberate in any way. These are just people who’ve made political careers out of being loudly ignorant and too arrogant to learn, demonstrating what happens when you have ignorant arrogant people in charge.

Sure, agree with that but I don’t discount that somewhere in the chain there’s elements feverishly working to turn it to advantage and actually welcoming the inevitable clusterfarks. There’s a lot to be gained by systemic failure for certain parasitic entities, be they economic or ideological variety. I mean, I think Vance is a bloviating prik and a small intellect but he’s conniving, ‘adaptable’ and ideologically driven enough to be a useful link man and be conscious of it. He’s also very likely the next US President, which is almost as hard to believe as Trump the first time around.

[chris_64]

Noted, thanks for the fact checking.

[StealthBomber]

This would be career ending for most of these people in a normal administration.

But yeah, we know very well this isn’t a normal administration.

[Houli_Dooli]

Still 1000+ days to go

[premature_rookie_ele]

We’re one tweet away from “this is all Joe Biden‘s fault and never would’ve happened if he didn’t do XYZ”

[Albert_Thurgood]

@barry_day

@mattmfm.bsky.social on Bluesky

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With alcoholic Hegseth involved, they should be calling this Whiskyleaks.

[Wanderlust]

[barry_day]

Ida Bae Wells (@nhannahjones.bsky.social)

[barry_day]

But perhaps signs of things to come.

[ROOKIE]

Rik Rok & Shaggy sang a song about this.

[Albert_Thurgood]

[Shahid_Afridi]

[Brewer_s_Droop]

Both ABC and Guardian f*****g up their reporting of this, meekly broadcasting Trump’s claim that there was nothing confidential in the Signal chat, and headlines like this:

It’s like they can’t wait to get to the next story.