US politics - never go full Project 2025 (part 8)

[Darli]

@barry_day

Meaning that the objective of globalization wasn’t to reduce global inequalities but very much to maintain them, to institute a system of permanent economic hierarchy where rich countries would maintain their hold over the most profitable sectors while relegating poor countries to perpetual subordination in lower-value production.

Sub globalisation for Capitalism and countries for people and you have the answer to every economic problem is the last 50 years

[Soulnet]

[Nexta]

[Yossarian]

[Lawry]

US beef farmers are lobbying the US government to levy Aussie beef imported to the US.

Currently uncooked Aussie beef can be sold into the US - we export around $4bn a year of uncooked beef into the US. However under the FTA uncooked US beef cannot be imported/sold into Australia.

Not sure what will happen but it could mean Aussie beef sold into the US is slapped with a tariff or Australia may agree to allow uncooked US beef to be sold into Australia.

Apparently US farmers have had a beef over this issue for a decade.

Cheaper Big Macs?

[Humble_Minion]

I’m fairly sure China will be happy to buy all the beef we can sell them.

Of course the reason that US raw beef can’t be sold here is because it doesn’t meet health standards, not because of any protectionist measures.

[bigallan]

IIRC , both human and animal health.
The WTO Agreement on Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures was designed to deal with disputes of this nature.
Both Australia and the US have been involved in a number of cases under this Agreement.

[Albert_Thurgood]

@Lawry

uncooked US beef cannot be imported/sold into Australia.

Because US beef could have infectious agents that if transmitted to Australian herds would jeopardise our “clean” reputation and our other export markets.

[bigallan]

Also, from memory, fresh US beef does not meet FSANZ standards for human health.
BSE used to be an issue, together with some nasties, possibly connected with abattoir standards and processing ( US abattoirs used to be pretty grim).
Apparently, in addition to our exports for the hamburger trade, we have developed a market for Waygu beef, in hot competition with US domestic producers. That might be the real gripe.

[Walla]

Just tell the USA to GAGF.

[up_up]

Vance describes the assumptions of globalisation here as “conceits”. He’s not praising them.

[Albert_Thurgood]

@Wanderlust

Surely not? https://x.com/sethabramson/status/1902554939609534527?s=46&t=YGdPXSqojqeDwdjPFXFTRQ

It has been reported that the remarks he made were only about how it was bad that research funding had been arbitrarily cut and that would be a bad outcome.

[Lawry]

Aussie beef >>> US beef

[Albert_Thurgood]

Well, of course.

And also this:

[theDJR]

[Sniggles]

[bonzo]

Aussie immigration can do that here on entry also. If they request, you must hand over youre phone and passwords so they can have a look.

[Loflyer]

In 1929 the Americans stumbled and caused a global crisis, the far right in Germany capitalised. Now they’re manufacturing one. To what ends? Absolute power.

[Loflyer]

Every day the front pages are spoilt for choice. This isn’t even one of the most awful

[Humble_NSW_Fan]

The beef issue has a few nuances too, to add to the above discourse.

Hormone Growth promotants are in wide use in USA and have long been used as a reason not to import US beef by the EU.

Much beef in the US is feedlot beef, while here we have a lot of grass fed, so it’s a different product.

My personal view is the US feedlot beef is a toxic sludge of a product, akin to eating a ‘biggest loser’ candidate.

My personal opinion, from my own masthead, is that Australian consumers would not really choose to have hormone implanted, feedlot beef, with low omega 3 profiles……it would have to be a lot cheaper.

The local market would rally and MLA would create some hard hitting advertising to highlight these issues.

It won’t be rivers of gold for US producers

I could be wrong.