He is playing like a older player that has spent a year out and is struggling to pick up the pace of the modern game. The body and attitude are good but it is a big ask to take a year off let alone shift to a team that has been thrown together. Keep him in the ones and make the young guys earn their place. Would like a few goals from him (from anyone actually).
That an ominous analysis given the 12 and how they may go in 2017
Good point actually. That’s the big unknown in all of this. Will they return to their former level? How long will it take to get there? It will vary of course but it is an unknown that a lot of us are glossing over as we just expect them to slot straight back in and for normal transmission to resume.
Players have been out with injury for longer periods and come back ok. Could be that Crowls is cooked, and/or that he didn’t have the benefit of training with anyone else. Not saying it will be smooth sailing - some will find it harder than others.
I look at the 12 being out as them having a knee injury, but in our case they’re lucky they dont have one, and they’re some what training. I think they’ll be ok by end of the NAB. They’ll match simulate when they return at years end.
The 12 will be back in September. They will get a full pre-season. They are younger and were not halfway cooked in the first place. They are all better players than Crowley, in completely different situations.
He is playing like a older player that has spent a year out and is struggling to pick up the pace of the modern game. The body and attitude are good but it is a big ask to take a year off let alone shift to a team that has been thrown together. Keep him in the ones and make the young guys earn their place. Would like a few goals from him (from anyone actually).
That an ominous analysis given the 12 and how they may go in 2017
Good point actually. That’s the big unknown in all of this. Will they return to their former level? How long will it take to get there? It will vary of course but it is an unknown that a lot of us are glossing over as we just expect them to slot straight back in and for normal transmission to resume.
To be fair on the 12 when comparing their situation with Crowley. He is a year older than Jobe who is the oldest of the 12. Hepp, Colyer and Hurls I would still consider young and Myers & Hooker about to enter their prime.
Also the 12 are training together which will be a combination of fitness and skills whilst Crowls had to train alone so the keeping the skills up would have been harder.
Also the 12, or for those who return will be back with the same teammates and game plan.
Plus the 12 will get a full pre-season with their team. Crowley didn’t get that
There is a fair chance some of the 12 will come back worse, but there is a fair chance some will come back as good or better, plus have an extended career because of this ‘freshen up’ year. I’d back Stanton to do this, especially with reduced rotations benefitting his game.
So far it seems to me that we have the best tagger in the competition playing for us, but we are not tagging any opponents yet.
This is an aggressive gambit by Worsfold, sensing before most that it may actually be that the day of the tagger is over in 2016. Certainly we are now equipped to be more of run and gun side that we were in the past when we had a more solid, but pedestrian midfield of Jobe , Hepp, Hocking (tagging) and Myers. ( not that there was anything wrong with that from 2010 to 2015 )
If the Doggies fast run and gun game plan supercedes the dour Freo defensive game plan then it begs the question what does Ryan Crowley bring us in the forward line ?
Leaving aside those comments , I think he is actually a great personality around the club and he oozes positivity and I really like him.
Imo taggers don’t exist in the AFL post-2014
Too much focus on 18 man defenses to lose 1 player because he’s only focussed on one opposition player
Thats interesting, because it was claimed that Collingwood tagged both Zac and Zaka on Anzac Day 2016 and this tactic was said to have reduced the influence of both players. Or is the meaning of “tag” now becoming nuanced to mean, “he held onto my arm and pushed me around at the centre bounce” ?
Targeted negating at a stoppage =/= tagging
Is Jacobs at North a tagger? I don’t see any North, but the commentators seem to have rated him in that role over the last ~12 months
He is playing like a older player that has spent a year out and is struggling to pick up the pace of the modern game. The body and attitude are good but it is a big ask to take a year off let alone shift to a team that has been thrown together. Keep him in the ones and make the young guys earn their place. Would like a few goals from him (from anyone actually).
That an ominous analysis given the 12 and how they may go in 2017
Good point actually. That’s the big unknown in all of this. Will they return to their former level? How long will it take to get there? It will vary of course but it is an unknown that a lot of us are glossing over as we just expect them to slot straight back in and for normal transmission to resume.
To be fair on the 12 when comparing their situation with Crowley. He is a year older than Jobe who is the oldest of the 12. Hepp, Colyer and Hurls I would still consider young and Myers & Hooker about to enter their prime.
Also the 12 are training together which will be a combination of fitness and skills whilst Crowls had to train alone so the keeping the skills up would have been harder.
Also the 12, or for those who return will be back with the same teammates and game plan.
He’s slow, and I don’t mean he’s mediocre paced, I mean struggling to keep up with players that have moderate pace, slow. Not to mention, once again, I have no idea what he contributed.
He is playing like a older player that has spent a year out and is struggling to pick up the pace of the modern game. The body and attitude are good but it is a big ask to take a year off let alone shift to a team that has been thrown together. Keep him in the ones and make the young guys earn their place. Would like a few goals from him (from anyone actually).
That an ominous analysis given the 12 and how they may go in 2017
Good point actually. That’s the big unknown in all of this. Will they return to their former level? How long will it take to get there? It will vary of course but it is an unknown that a lot of us are glossing over as we just expect them to slot straight back in and for normal transmission to resume.
To be fair on the 12 when comparing their situation with Crowley. He is a year older than Jobe who is the oldest of the 12. Hepp, Colyer and Hurls I would still consider young and Myers & Hooker about to enter their prime.
Also the 12 are training together which will be a combination of fitness and skills whilst Crowls had to train alone so the keeping the skills up would have been harder.
Also the 12, or for those who return will be back with the same teammates and game plan.
Crowley was back training with Fremantle in July - So he lacked little in fitness.
So far it seems to me that we have the best tagger in the competition playing for us, but we are not tagging any opponents yet.
This is an aggressive gambit by Worsfold, sensing before most that it may actually be that the day of the tagger is over in 2016. Certainly we are now equipped to be more of run and gun side that we were in the past when we had a more solid, but pedestrian midfield of Jobe , Hepp, Hocking (tagging) and Myers. ( not that there was anything wrong with that from 2010 to 2015 )
If the Doggies fast run and gun game plan supercedes the dour Freo defensive game plan then it begs the question what does Ryan Crowley bring us in the forward line ?
Leaving aside those comments , I think he is actually a great personality around the club and he oozes positivity and I really like him.
Imo taggers don’t exist in the AFL post-2014
Too much focus on 18 man defenses to lose 1 player because he’s only focussed on one opposition player
Thats interesting, because it was claimed that Collingwood tagged both Zac and Zaka on Anzac Day 2016 and this tactic was said to have reduced the influence of both players. Or is the meaning of “tag” now becoming nuanced to mean, “he held onto my arm and pushed me around at the centre bounce” ?
Targeted negating at a stoppage =/= tagging
Is Jacobs at North a tagger? I don’t see any North, but the commentators seem to have rated him in that role over the last ~12 months
Last year the Roos, at least once, had Gibson and Jacobs running with players in the same match (might have been the final vs Richmond)
Not sure what they did the rest of the year, and I couldn’t see him following anyone on Friday against the dogs