kids never asked for participation trophies. its for sore loser parents. always has been.
Putting in rules around this I actually donât mind. Everyone gets to bat and bowl for two overs and what not.
But I really donât agree with the whole idea of removing wins and losses and ladders and finals ect
Is that not the definition of medals for everyone?
Hey little billy is genuinely â â â â at bowling but he has to bowl two innings because rules.
Nope, thatâs very different.
Every gets a go is very different to âeverbody winsâ
No itâs not. Itâs the same thing. Youâre â â â â but you still are treated like youâre not.
donât like it all you want. but its a solid proven strategy to keep kids, coaches and officials in sport beyond their first year of participation.
This. My daughter (10) has a very competitive nature. We play a lot of card and board games at home and we have had to work through this. She used to get quite upset when sheâd lose. Sheâs much better now.
Sheâs involved in two sports that donât involve winners or losers, she just loves to play/perform. She enjoys getting better, not winning. I think thatâs pretty healthy myself. All her school sporting endeavours donât have winners or losers either. Not too worried about it myself. Just have fun, right?
Iâm pretty much just the uber winning Hawks coach from the Mighty Ducks.
the rate at which girls drop out of sport between age 10-14 has been a massive issue that for decades has been waved off as a âwomen be shoppingâ stereotype issue of body image etc. only in the last couple of years has there been proper research into this thats uncovered the real number one reason - it got too competitive.
turns out just copying what we did for boys for however many decades might not have been the optimal approach. girls, by and large, far more enjoy âplayingâ with/against their peers than âcompetingâ with/against them.
but as per usual, sports are dragging their ass into catching up on this. only cricket and basketball so far have seen any real traction. soccer has been trying but only commercially-run comps are succeeding.
@scotty21 if never allowed a prize for every wrapping paper in pass the parcel. One winner at the end.
Parents were more â â â â â â at me than the kids. Welcome to life, you donât get a prize for turning up.
This tbh
I think âwhy on earth are we going down this aisle?! We donât buy pet food here!â
Mrs Billy is the same as yours. She will end up with stuff we donât need as it was on sale.
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4 things by my count
- Barrack for Essendon
- think Essendon is â â â â
- Winners/losers is a part of life, get over it
- Post too much on blitz
Thats the simple point for me and sport is a great way for kids to learn that lesson.
Sure, i get it for 7/8 year olds but at 10 they are old enough to learn those lessons.
Itâs still definitely a development age let them have fun and be free and not worry about winning or losing. The last thing you want is them to lose interest because they are told they are not good enough for the team to win.
Our comp doesnât have finals in U10âs and U12âs cricket but the U12âs do keep scores and play to win.
In the footy there is no finals for U9âs and U11âs but U13âs keep scores, have a ladder and play finals.
In cricket the better kids in U12âs normally get asked or asked to give it a miss and just play U14âs instead
Note that I never aim to agree with you, but a very long time ago I coached Under9 and Under 11 footy. They did keep score but there were no finals and most of the kids didnât even care if they didnât touch the ball much, just as long as they could run around and have fun in the mud with their mates. In under 9s in one year we had about 24 kids who would turn up each week, so if the other side coach agreed, we would let everyone play in the game. Parents were always the problem, as if their kid was talented they would scream if I took them off the field to let others have a run. It got worse in Under 11 and parents were even more serious and vocal about winning. Kids just wanted to have fun.
We were serious about coaching skills and training was organised well two nights a week, though few parents attended or seemed to care. I loved the role but stopped because I knew the day would come when I would punch a father or mother to shut them up. Some people should not have kids.
Plenty of time for kids to get serious about winning, better to let kids be kids.
Scant evidence of that in the match day threads!
My son came through footy, basketball and cricket, where scores were always kept. But have seen ugly parents screaming at coaches, umpires (often kids) and even the kids (their own and others) and this ramping up as things got competitive/close. As an assistant coach of underage footy I organised rotations and was constantly under pressure to give a few of the talented kids more game time, at the expense of some of those less talented- this pressure was never from the kids -only from the parents.
I interpret the no scores etc thing as mostly (as noted by Simmo) about managing the parents, rather than about what the kids think.
Actually, I should mention that there are two events that do have winners and losers - the athletics and swimming carnivals, but I guess they have to do that for purposes of advancement to regional and state meets. All team sports donât though.
She also goes to a school in probably the wokiest suburb in Australia (Newtown). ![]()