Woosha – final moments or finals moment?

And then seconds later Freo were allowed to shepherd ten metres away on their half forward flank!

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Whether you rate him or not, he’ll be coaching us next year

The last two weeks we’re as bad as I’ve ever seen, but with the injury list as bad as its been this year, he’s done a reasonable job getting us to finals and you have to give him that. I reckon if we dropped last night and the pies and missed he would have been close to gone though, I still suspect he would have survived but there was at least a good enough argument for him to be removed

But, we’re playing finals and were around that 6-8 Mark and with a bit of luck, we could have definately been a 4-6 side. He’s done enough to be coaching us next season

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You’ve changed man

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WRONG, first seen in Australia in WA using to make race-horses run quicker.

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English citations of elephant juice

Etymology 1[edit]

Noun[edit]

  1. (slang) Etorphine.
  2. Used as a stimulant for horses.
* **1985** November 28, Bill Marx, “‘Elephant juice’ drug found in Breeders' Cup turf horse”, in [Orlando Sentinel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Sentinel)‎[[1]](https://web.archive.org/web/20160105151158/http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1985-11-28/sports/0340520189_1_etorphine-cup-turf-breeders-cup), archived from [the original](http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1985-11-28/sports/0340520189_1_etorphine-cup-turf-breeders-cup) on 5 January 2016:

Etorphine, a morphine analog, is a powerful stimulant known as " elephant juice " because it is used to tranquilize large circus animals. Given in small dosage, it acts as a stimulant. “It ranges up to 10,000 times more powerful than morphine,” the New York Daily News quoted one expert as saying. “If there is one drug that does not belong in the body of the thoroughbred it is etorphine. Even a slight overdose could kill a horse.”

* **1988** , David Foster, The Pale Blue Crochet Coathanger Cover:

You mean that elephant juice they use to dope horses?

* **1990** , [The Bulletin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bulletin), page 106:

[…] the disqualification of Laurie Connell’s trainer George Way for using " elephant juice ", […]

* **2004** December 28, Andrew Eddy, “The drugs challenge”, in [The Age](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age)‎[[2]](https://web.archive.org/web/20140823052851/http://www.theage.com.au/news/Horse-Racing/The-drugs-challenge/2004/12/27/1103996492071.html), archived from [the original](http://www.theage.com.au/news/Horse-Racing/The-drugs-challenge/2004/12/27/1103996492071.html) on 23 August 2014:

ETORPHINE ( elephant juice ) A tranquiliser for large animals such as elephants, it can be a most powerful stimulant if applied correctly to horses. Caused a sensation in WA racing, especially in the 1980s.
2. Taken as a drug by humans.
* 1967 , Louis E. Lomax, Thailand: The War that Is, the War that Will Be, Random House, page 142:

To take a ride, one sucked Elephant juice through the reed until the water level disappeared beneath the husk. As applause and cheers rang to the ceiling, the host added water to the Elephant for the next partygoer […]

* **2002** , Richard Lawrence Miller, The Encyclopedia of Addictive Drugs, Westport, Conn.; London: [Greenwood Press](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood_Publishing_Group), <small>[→ISBN](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-0-313-31807-8)</small>, pages 157–158:

Etorphine […] Informal Names : Elephant Juice […] When humans in an experiment received etorphine they experienced euphoria and described the drug as feeling like morphine. Researchers who administered etorphine in that experiment concluded that the drug is likely to be abused. Misuse has been noted in China.
2. [A strength-giving potion.]

  • 2008 , George MacDonald, Lilith:

“I think,” remarked one of them, “it must be elephant-juice ! It makes me so strong!”**

I am not really pro Worsfold, for me the jury is still out.
However, I must accord him the respect for by2 gutsy moves, that are actually linked.
… Debuting zerk. A risky selection with finals on the line.
… Ambrose tagging the best (big bodied ) mid in the AFL. Even more daring, out of left field tactic that pretty much limited Fyfes effectiveness

Neither move entirely successful, but made a contribution to a win that defied Fremantles ruck, clearance and contested footy dominance. Turning stats on their head.

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I almost think he needs to be challenged. Some of the performances when our backs to the wall have been amazing, it’s the “should wins” where we struggle.

Bring in an assistant coach that can continually challenge him and get the best out of him, Woosha can DEFINITELY coach.

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I still hold a lot of doubt in him being the coach to lead us to a premiership. I still think more assistant coaches need to be shown the door.

But the coaching group has done a great job this year (regardless of last night’s result).
We had a ■■■■■ pre-season. Didn’t have a practice game when almost every other club had one and were terrible during JLT. Someone got sacked (mutual decision) just before the season (cannot recall his name), but a terrible pre-season is very tough to recover from during the season.
The pre-season is a big reason why the players can’t run out games and that injuries have come our way. The same can be said for Melbourne who also had a terrible pre-season. Due to the injuries, we’ve had to ‘win ugly’ which has also brought about our most consistent patch of footy (yes those 5 weeks + the 3 weeks beforehand) that we’ve played since 2012 and 13 during Hird’s coaching career. Before that time, I struggle to recall a patch that long where we performed consistently well enough to win games and be a finals chance. In Worsfold’s time, it also seems we’ve found a way to perform interstate which has been another bone of ours since we last won a final.

We’re now playing a final. For the first time since playing Sydney a few years ago and that was truly another debacle. I recall Heppell saying they’d ‘learnt’ from that loss and we’ll see whether they have learnt. In a very odd way, I think if we play GWS (regardless of whether it is here or there), we are as good a chance at beating them than anyone else above us on the ladder. I don’t think we can match the Pies, Eagles, Cats or Tigers. If we played Brisbane here, we’d be a chance but I’m not confident against them at the Gabba. But GWS is gettable. They play a flashy brand of footy and if we can play a lock down defensive game and pick our spots to counter attack, we can beat them. If the game is wide open, we’ll get smashed like round 1 this year. But if it’s an in and under slog (think of Sydney or Richmond style) like round 15, then we are a chance. Hopefully the players are up for the challenge.

Having said all that, I’m still not confident in Worsfold and still need some more reassurance before I’m comfortable with him coaching us. I still think he needs better people around him to succeed and we’re unwilling to surround him with tactical minds. Hopefully we finish off the season with a competitive finals campaign and carry that into the pre-season, work our arses off and hit the JLT running.

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in a sadistic way i was kinda hoping we’d lose the last 2 games, but still make the finals, and somehow have him and the team win at least 2 finals just for the lol’s that no one would have any ■■■■■■■ idea what to do next …
as in do you sack him, do you keep him after that or what, it’d literally make alot of peoples heads explode.

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it was a great masterstroke to trial ambrose in the midfield albeit as a tagger hey.

If only someone on here had suggested something like trying that earlier in the year hmmmmmm

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Ambrose did a good job but he’s better as a defender and I’d prefer DClarke to take the tagger role because he can get the ball unlike Ambrose. DClarke has only played ten games, he’s gonna get better.

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To be fair. The ones I saw were there. We need to be more disciplined especially with tackling. Although I think there was a message sent to the group about the tackling efforts last week. So I actually don’t mind giving away those frees.

Woosha is s great man and a good coach.
Supports club and players wholly. They work for him. He Has had rotten luck with Smith going down early this year and Daniher missing for 2 years.
People forget how good those two are.
Look at Hurley back last night. One key player straightened up the whole team big time. And we have no ruck.
Brisbane is arguably top of the ladder on the recruiting of one player whose season has been spectacular; Lachie Neale. Does that make Fagan a superstar coach?
My point is that the players (their availability and how well they play) is far more important than the coach.

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Mods, can we correct the thread title to “finals moments” ?

I dont like it sounding like we’re not going to play more than 1 final :grin:

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Every single possible match-up gets suggested on Blitz at some stage on another. Law of averages says you’ll get one right eventually.

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I agree. You’d think that clarke will come back in this week. Ambrose to the backline. Question is, which tall goes out because we’d be too tall with 4 of them in

You misunderstand, I refer to a grand final moment. The first three weeks will just be boring wins.

(It actually was initially what you asked for. But unlike @Alan_Noonan_10 I appreciate elegant prose, so just shifting one “s” was prettier.)

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Imagine the mental gymnastics the prominent posters in this thread are going to have to perform if we win a final.

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We know it’s sometimes used in horses as a stimulant, that’s not indispute.
A tiny dose will kill a human.
About 5mg will immobilize an elephant, a similar amount will immobilize a rhino.
It’s not a performance enhancer in humans.

I think Redman can take Zaharkis’ spot and Gleeson can take his spot with Francis as the 7th defender.

Or Francis gets unlucky.

What if we get smashed in one? Will the other prominent posters be in the thread?

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