World Headed for next Major Extinction Event

Sameolds2010 · May 8, 2019, 9:23pm

Humble_Minion:

chris_64:

It is possible to have a conservation minded belief system, an ordered society which stays within bounds in terms of environmental impact.
Unfortunately it is unlikely to survive because any ordered society based on that would soon be over-run by the other exploitative groups.

In case that fact is lost on you: I refer to the Australian Aboriginal culture and the invasion by the European christian based exploitative culture. South American Indians and Spanish value systems, Mexican Indians, American Indians, Canadian Indians… the list goes on.

I’d definitely argue the case against ANY historical or current human society being called ‘conservation minded’ in any meaningful sense. When humans first arrived in Australia, the combination of firestick farming and hunting caused titanic ecological destruction and a localised mass extinction of very significant scale, which is why you don’t see diprotodons and mihirungs and procoptodons when you go to Healesville Sanctuary. By the time 1788 rolled around, huge amounts of Australia was under literal agricultural cultivation - there were no fences or property rights, and the crops were nardoo and myrniong and warragul rather than wheat and sheep, but the myth of ‘noble savages living in harmony with untouched nature’ is discredited quasi-history, largely driven by a colonist class that didn’t recognise indigenous agriculture as agriculture, and which didn’t want to do so because it’d bring the whole issue of land ownership into uneasy question.

Same pattern happened all over the world. All across the Pacific, the fossil record tells is that as soon as humans arrive, the local large animals disappear. Same in New Zealand - the moas were gone very quuickly after the arrival of the Maori. Same story happened in north America.

Seafaring- and industrial-era Europeans are no different to any other people, ecologically speaking. It’s just that they brought with them technology that allowed the to do a more throrough job of destruction. Other peoples would arrive in a new place, slaughter all the big animals and cause massive ecological havoc, and then ether settle into an uneasy equilibrium with the devastated shell of an ecosystem that’s left over (which is what happened in Australia) or else die out completely (Easter Island says hi)

Problem with what’s going on in the modern day is that our impact is global rather than local, ther’s no barriers other than our own self-imposed restrictions holding us back, and the sheer scope and intrusiveness of our impact is so much larger. After jubilantly gorging on all the Australian megafauna, the first indigenous Australians weer eventually forced by ecological pressure to find a steady state with the scarred dry fire-prone gum-tree ecosystem and the smaller roos and the possums that managed to survive the initial onslaught. Modern humanity isn’t going to get to that point until there’s nothing left but rats and jellyfish and cockroaches.

You be reading Andrew Marr

Bomb_Doe · May 8, 2019, 9:37pm

Mrs Doe and I were actually chatting about this the other night. Natural selection and survival of the fittest no longer applies to humans.

Although I do hold out hope these oblivious morons walking with faces glued to their phones will be obliviated*. I’d call it natural elimination.

*it’s not a word but it should be

bloodychoir · May 8, 2019, 9:48pm

It’s definitely a word mate, and well used. Speaking of, the latest in Scumo’s efforts to obliviate environmental issues from the electorates minds. Lying bastardrasp

Albert_Thurgood · May 8, 2019, 10:05pm

Just shows what little regard the Tories have for the truth. They would lie about anything to get their snouts back in the trough.

And why not? The MSM will not hold them to account.

Bomb_Doe · May 8, 2019, 10:16pm

cheers - well so much for trusting my computer dictionary. Should have stuck with my natural instincts.

RedandBlackPartisan · May 8, 2019, 10:25pm

The guy is a happy clapper, isn’t he? Would he break the commandment which tells him not to lie?

bloodychoir · May 8, 2019, 10:43pm

If he lies and profits from the lie then God has approved his interpretation of the commandment on this occasion.

Sameolds2010 · May 9, 2019, 1:41am

there is no god
only zoul

RedandBlackPartisan · May 9, 2019, 3:27am

There is Xenu.

Bomb_Doe · May 9, 2019, 3:54am

Some humans are just…

Ute driver who filmed himself mowing down emus gets 42 days in jail

May 9, 2019 — 1.43pm

A man who mowed down emus on an outback road and posted a video of it online has been sentenced to 42 days in jail by a Victorian court.

Jacob Scott MacDonald was sentenced in Mildura Magistrates Court on Thursday over the sickening attack on Pellaring Road at Cowangie, in Victoria’s north west in September last year.

Video was posted on social media, sparking a nationwide manhunt before police charged MacDonald with animal cruelty and traffic offences.

7NEWS Adelaide @7NewsAdelaide

Speaking exclusively to 7 News, Jacob MacDonald speaks of his regret after being accused of running down a mob of emus in a video that went viral. The 20-year-old has been charged with multiple offences, including causing cruelty to an animal. @laurenrosevj #7News

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Believed to be filmed from a smartphone attached to the steering wheel, it appears to show a man speeding towards the emus on a dirt road.

The footage shows a man laughing while running over several emus in a 4WD.

He’s heard saying “f—ing emus” before the animals appear on the screen.

Up to 13 emus can then be seen being mown down by the car as they run for their lives.

AAP, with Melissa Cunningham

Lance84 · May 9, 2019, 3:55am

They should shoot this ■■■■■■■■.

benfti · May 9, 2019, 3:56am

That prick should have got years, not days

SMJ · May 9, 2019, 3:57am

That’s farking horrific. What the fk is wrong with some people.

Agree with Ben. Lock him up and throw away the key

tom · May 9, 2019, 4:09am

never sure what people mean by climate change. The climate always changes it is either getting warmer or cooler and you cant stop that. Running around rabbiting about climate change makes no sense.

Lance84 · May 9, 2019, 4:11am

Exactly. The climate is changing. It’s the first time i’ve ever mentioned it on the internet. Is that considered rabbiting on?

SMJ · May 9, 2019, 4:11am

This is going to end well

RedandBlackPartisan · May 9, 2019, 4:49am

What are you rabbiting on about? There’s no such thing as the internet.

Lance84 · May 9, 2019, 4:52am

Then what have i been doing for the last 15 years?

RedandBlackPartisan · May 9, 2019, 4:56am

Well I’m not going to look up your search history.

Lance84 · May 9, 2019, 4:57am