#10 Franga: IN OUT IN OUT


#4830

Problem with that theory is it limits the field to only two clubs.


#4831

All I’m gonna say, is that at the Crichton last week, he walked by my table and had a sad look on his face. And I couldn’t see Bacchus anywhere, either. So…I dunno. Take from that what you will.


#4832

I knew he would be worth a second rounder at best


#4833

good call by you ™


#4834

Fair for them.

But Unlikely to be accepted by us.


#4835

Dodoro’s ego won’t let it happen. No way will he want to see a bloke he picked up with the #6 draft selection out the door within 2 years for a 2nd rounder. I’d say if it was in the top 15 we might just decide to cut our losses, but to fall into the 20-30 bracket wouldn’t be a good look on him or his recruiting team…


#4836

Maybe it doesn’t have anything to do with ‘ego’, because he’s a professional.
Maybe it’s a calculated assessment of risk/reward/return and Dodoro actually knows what he’s doing. Strange, I know.


#4837

At face value Francis is worth a second round pick.

But face value doesn’t acknowledge the investment the club has made in him. A second round pick isn’t a worthwhile trade when you consider the investment.

Then you need to consider his age & potential.

On top of all that, he has 2 years left on his contract.

So there is a very good reason why the trade simply won’t get completed.
What equals a ‘fair’ trade doesn’t enter the equation with the Francis situation.


#4838

I hope it’s the end of the Francis trade talk. The Adelaide clubs aren’t enthused and I’m sure as ■■■■ gonna be ■■■■■■ if we fob him off for a second rounder.

He’s hopefully got a wake up call and we can all move forward from there.


#4839

Tim Watson said this morning there were non football related issues at play and he thought a deal would get done. Granted this was before the Crows stated zero interest


#4840

I think Port are the interested ones, trying to get a bargain as their first pick is a second rounder.


#4841

Maybe we just don’t think he’s much good at all?


#4842

If the Lions are trying to get 2 first rounders for Schache, Francis must be worth 2 as well.


#4843

That’s not cutting our losses, that’s locking them in. The difference between trading for a third rounder and delisting him at some point and replacing him with whatever draft pick that happens to be is pretty much nothing. And the list spot difference is basically nothing as well.

You can get nothing in return for him now, or at worst nothing in return for him in 2 years. Or you can get him right.

Of course if he really wants/needs to go home you try and help him from a welfare point of view. (The managers comments didn’t sound like he was that sure that he wanted to go home)

Or you send him to Adelaide for 6 months or a year and give him someone to work with psychologically and hopefully welcome him back some time in the future ready to play football. If he’d done a knee halfway through the season we’d be happily rehab-ing him.

We don’t need him to be ready for this AFL thing day one of pre season. We don’t even really need him at any point in 2018. But if we rate him as a player and a person I think investing time and money into trying to get him right is worthwhile.


#4844

Plus, is the player we get with the third round pick gonna be a better prospect?

Highly doubtful.


#4845

It might be a bit of a shock for Francis to now know that in spite of wanting to go back to SA, neither of the clubs there seem to want him, but Essendon says they do.

I dont know what the personal issues are, but I hope he can sort them and get the best out of himself as an athlete, or do something else and enjoy life.


#4846

Francis has had issues since before being drafted. He has been a handful for the player welfare team to get his headspace right.

It was told to me at the bnf by someone close to the situation that the club would be happy to trade him but it was initially Aaron that did not want to be traded. The next day he ‘requested’ a trade, it is a very interesting situation. If we aren’t getting a top 25 pick for him we should not be offloading him.


#4847

Hopefully can turn the family tragedy around into the inspiration for him to work hard and make something of his footy career over the excuse/weight dragging him down over it.

Have to feel for the kid.

But others like Florent have had loss as well and it’s become his inspiration. All people deal with things differently though.


#4848

shuey too, didnt he lose his sister?


#4849

Yep.

Zaka was dating her at the time I believe.