So you have his mobile and have spoken with him as well !
i’d grab him in a heartbeat, he’s got it in spades
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I don’t think it’s outrageous to say he was disappointed in that moment. I also don’t think it’s realistic to say that because he looked disappointed for a moment in camera that he is suddenly disappointed with the whole off-season.
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We got Hobbs, we didn’t expect him to Don the sash, Lord will take some time…our mature aged will slot in nicely wing or HBF I’d suggest by round 5-7 he’ll be in
Adelaide jumps infront of us with pick 43, then Collingwood Jumps infront of us at pick 45.
By this stage I was fcking seething…… and people don’t think our recruiting team would have been equally pssed off?
It was clear as day that Adelaide and Collingwood had some intel on the players we wanted…… and jumped the cue to get them.
Cal Twomey also said that we had done a lot of work on Draper and had multiple interviews with him…… which was clearly why Collingwood traded infront of us.
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I looked at the draft video from picks around 38 again. To me, there were clubs who were taking players that were not ranked highly.
Brisbane for example, they picked up a player that no one rated…we could have thrown a F3rd with our 1st pick in the 40s, and moved up potentially.
If we rated Draper so much, like a 2nd rounder level, we could have offered the F2nd with the 40s pick to one of the other clubs, like Adelaide. (Melbourne did a deal with Adelaide but AFL stopped it). Given the players we picked up would have been available in the 50s or 60s anyway.
I feel Dodoro and team tried to get into the late 20s or early 30s. When unsuccessful, they probably didn’t try anything in the early 40s. Like the deal Collingwood did with Geelong is an easy deal to make.
Points for Daveys isn’t much of an issue when you can trade future picks and also even if you go into negatives, most likely to only affect F2nd or 3rds, for the year after. Trust your judgement and go for it. Melbourne has shown that so many times.
Just not good enough that Dodoro sits there quoting Sheedy and his quotes. That is just ancient draft strategy now.
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If you have pick 50 and want a player real bad, then you need to make a move to get that player in advance. No use seething now, we should have offered something reasonable to get up further to ensure we got that player, rather than wait for another club to do that to us. We failed on draft night if we didn’t end up with the players we really wanted around our pick. Draft night is different to what it used to be with live trading, it’s not just about knowing the players the teams ahead of you want, but also those behind you.
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When would you have made your move? Before Adelaide made their trade? Between Adelaide and Collingwood? After Collingwood made their move?
Also, what draft number would you have gone after and what would you have offered up to make that happen?
What would you do if, after all that, you sell the 22 proverbial farm and you still don’t get your guy because he gets taken the pick before the one you traded up to?
Some of the outlandish and completely general statements about “modern day trading” blah blah - it is just laughable. Armchair list managers who aren’t providing any specific insight because they can’t, they all have NFI except that jackets wanted player x and should have traded up to a draft position to make that happen, with the benefit of hindsight of having been piped at the post.
I was reading blitz whilst watching the draft and no one said we need to be trading up in real time.
The reality is a guy we liked slid massively and nearly got to our pick but a couple of teams traded in front of us and pinched our pocket.
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People would have spewed on this forum if we traded the farm to move up one or two places.
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yep even if we had north’s hand and got Horne and Goater some wouldn’t be happy as Horne not as big as Bont / Dusty and Goater sprayed a couple of kicks.
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Why is it so important for people to have their own disappointment validated and agreed upon? It’s quite weird.
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100% agree. This is going to turn into the new ‘Hooker forward or back’ isn’t it?
Were people peeved when we traded up to get Jones? Maybe a few but I think overall, Blitzers we’re happy we made the moves we needed to and got who we wanted.
EDIT: whoops, wasn’t meant to be replying to you specifically there @RTBC , more just a general point about fans reacting to live trading for players.
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At the end of the day, as soon as you make the move the player is yours. We could have made a move anywhere between 35 and 45. The thing with live trading is that as soon as you jump in the player is yours and you are not leaving it to chance.
All I am saying is that no club these days has an excuse. Sure it is hard to move up in the first round because teams are less willing to move back, but when you get into the 30’s and 40’s there are plenty of opportunities to jump in and get a player.
You don’t need to be an expert to know that live trading has changed things and any sensible Blitzer that is not so one eyed would acknowledge this. I’m not saying that we stuffed up by not getting Draper, because I know nothing about him, but if we were desperate to get him, we could have got him with live trading and not left any of it to chance and therefore have no right to be seething that another team jumped in and grabbed him with the pick before ours.
I find it bemusing that people can’t see that we stuffed up if our intention was to take Draper.
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Yep. I’d be very ■■■■■■ off if we coughed up a future second to slide up a few spots. That’s what it would have cost. We hit the jackpot with Hobbs too. People should just get excited.
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In hindsight, the live trade would have been (what turned out to be)
Ess: #46 #50
Syd: #40 #58
Essendon would have got their choice of Jones, Draper and Lord, and would have been extremely likely to pick up McDonagh with their unused fourth round pick, and a decent chance of Lord being available as well.
Sydney would still have been very likely to get their third round choice of Warner and moved up eight places for their next pick.
Would have been no need to trade future picks.
Maybe they tried that.
Maybe Sydney said, nah.
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If you had 40 in this draft would you have happily traded back 6 spots? I think if somebody you want is still available at that pick then you just take them.
And yet Hooker went forward again after being shifted back after his first stint as a forward… so clearly it was a valid discussion and one that the coaching panel themselves were having 
So I’m not sure that’s a great example of never saying never for a McGrath shift to the backline.
IMO I don’t believe it will happen this coming season but once (if) Hobbs and Caldwell get through a full season this year at either level and show enough then it will become something to seriously weigh up in the year following.
It depends on who the player you’ve targeted is.
There were live trades giving up spots much higher in the draft than that.
Yep. Depends how much Sydney want their man. There weren’t many live trades though, so clubs are clearly hesitant to get too clever.