No he wasnt a saint but he his exposed ability was (and still is) far superior to Stephenson who’s indiscretions were worse and who’s club was offloading any player possible for any price offered
If you think theres any sense in using any of Stephenson, Treloar or Phillips as examples of a players trade value then I can’t help you
Huge drop from a potential top 10 to 22 for a speculative player such as Hill. He’s a talent but largely unproven.
My trade was offering our future first, not pick 11.
Let’s say next year goes reasonably bad and we finish with pick 5. Your trade suggestion gets us a 17 pick downgrade from the first round…thats ALOT for Bobby Hill.
Adam Treloar averaged 30 touches and 5 clearances a game across the 5 previous seasons before getting traded. So his form was better than Stringer’s who only had one elite year. Treloar also had no off field issues, or reasons to doubt his professionalism (which Stringer certainly did)
I have no idea why it would be absurd to compare the two. I’m really not sure what the argument is here
Bobby Hill wants out of GWS with the Bombers, Hawks and Roos all lining up for his services. Here is the club who has an offer the Giants can’t refuse.
Marc McGowan
7 min read
October 9, 2021 - 8:20PM
Talented small forward Bobby Hill wants out of Greater Western Sydney, with Essendon emerging as the front-runner to win his services.
Hill has officially requested a trade out of the Giants for compassionate reasons and is expected to be a Bomber, Hawk or Kangaroo next season.
Essendon has the most compelling offer in front of the 21-year-old, who would deliver Ben Rutten’s side the goal sneak the club’s been chasing.
The Bombers missed out on Gold Coast’s Malcolm Rosas, who re-signed at the Suns, and were interested in former Crow and Tiger Tyson Stengle.
Bobby Hill looks to be headed to Windy Hill. Picture: Phil Hillyard/AFL Photos
Western Australia-raised Hill, who is contracted for one more year, is keen to move to Melbourne with his pregnant partner, Georgia, who is due to give birth to their first child in December.
Two of his cousins, St Kilda winger Bradley Hill and Richmond enforcer Sydney Stack, are among his relatives who live in Victoria.
Hill left the team mid-year to return to Covid-19-stricken Sydney to be by Georgia’s side and his interest in leaving goes back at least one month – and pre-dates Rory Lobb’s trade situation.
The Fremantle ruck-forward hopes to return to the Giants and the Hill developments could pave the way for that to happen.
GWS officials were supportive of Hill’s decision to go back to Sydney mid-season.
Hill and Lobb are from the same talent agency, Corporate Sports Australia, and managed by Andrew McDougall and Colin Young, respectively.
Hill moving on would clear much-needed salary cap space for the Giants to more easily fit in Lobb, who would also need to restructure his contract and take a sizeable pay cut.
The Dockers remain steadfast they won’t pay any of Lobb’s remaining two-year deal to help make a deal happen for him to rejoin GWS.
The Giants’ position since Lobb’s trade bombshell dropped on Thursday is that Hill is a required player, given Toby Greene and Brent Daniels are their only other recognised small forwards.
The 175cm speedster played 17 of his 30 career matches this year, averaging nine disposals and kicking 14 goals in total.
GWS already granted Jeremy Finlayson his wish to join Port Adelaide this week in exchange for a future third-round pick, after he and his partner welcomed their first child recently.
They, too, wanted to be closer to family for greater support.
What initially looked like a quiet trade period for Giants boss Jason McCartney is suddenly far from it, given the potential Lobb deal remains a work in progress.
Hill would be the fifth Giant in recent seasons to make his way to Tullamarine, following Devon Smith, James Stewart, Dylan Shiel and Jye Caldwell.
It also sets the scene for another showdown between Essendon list boss Adrian Dodoro and his GWS counterpart Jason McCartney.
It values Hill at about pick 35 and our future first at 11. Your future second trade values Hill at pick 30.
My bad. Either way still too high a price IMO. Our firsts should only be on the table if we get another first back. Unless it involves a proven elite player who fits our list demographic.
If someone is called Bobby, I expect them to look like this
It values Hill at pick 35 assuming we finish in the same ladder position. Future picks are a gamble, we could also finish higher then expected and it becomes a steal. What we do know is we want a small forward, we want to get another pick in the 10-25 range and we seem to rate this draft over next years.
Giants only coughed up a 2nd round pick to draft him and he has done nothing to suggest he would have been a first round pick although does show a lot of promise.
Offer a 3rd round pick and compromise with a 2nd if needed
E= Mc2 3(2 +X - Y) - % 44.5 = 2 (* 3 & 7) - 5. = Second rounder.
Yep you Sir are a spot on.
You’re putting way too much emphasis on the points system. The difference when trying to allow for future performance is hardly predictable. Fair props for the math but on face value I’d prefer to keep our firsts and offer a future second. All hypothetical until GWS put a price on him.
Freo 51 / efc future third rounder
Gws Lobb
Essendon Hill
Essendon the front runners according to Hills manager
How do we get another pick between 10 and 25 this year then? The problem with trading our future second is we cant trade our future first and we have no other currency to get another early pick this year.
I’m excited Bobby is going to florish under Rutten imo
Unpopular opinion but I have serious concerns about Stengle’s off field issues, and I am entirely unconvinced by Bobby Hill.
I dont think thats unpopular
