EFC is closer to Stkilda - plans to live with his cousin Brad Hill and his other cousin plays for Essendon AFLW side. family connections. Plus sam mitchell and hawks look like gonna be a development side. whereas Essendon will be battling for finals.
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He designed GWSâs indigenous round jumper this year IIRC. Iâd say Dreamtime especially would be huge for him.
Plus Hawks are going to be near bottom of ladder for a while. And Mitchell is a kent!
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I want to learn more about Taranto.
Fark I love Sheedy for creating these big marquee games.
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Sorry I missed that point in your paragraph above.
I donât see the issue anyway. The majority of these âgo homeâ trade requests are by Victorian kids anyway. The interstate clubs are already at a huge disadvantage. This balances it out
There would be things like this to work out. But the balance of power needs to be shifted away from the players a little bit imo.
Have the big boys spoken yet? (Jackets or Macca?)
GWS and Gold Coast are at a huge disadvantage. I donât think any other non-Victorian club is
Iâm assuming that both Clubs have decided any conversations between Jackets & McCartney should be conducted via fax machine.
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Reality is that our future second will be burnt by matching the Davey bids. It isnât practically valuable to us, other than itâs fairy dust points.
What is of use to GWS and Hawthorn is a draft pick. We put our future 2nd on the table as long as we get roughly the same value of fairy dust points coming back.
Something like:
Out: F2
In: Hill, F3 (GWS), F4 (GWS), F4 (HAW)
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Sit tight, be confident.
Hawks are opening discarding players over 26 years of age to clubs interested. For me it wouldnât scream âcome to Hawthorn and a have a10 year careerâ. They are a shambles at the min.
But our 2023 second rounder is valuable, which weâd likely have to trade to get enough picks to match the Davey bids (assuming they are highly rated ofc)
True. But a year is a long time. Good chance that we trade out one or more fringe players next year for late picks.
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You wonder what Hawks will get for wingard, will be annoyed if they get 13
Iâm thinking it will be more
EFC Hill, HAW 2022 4th, GWS 2022 4th
GWS 5, Wingard out 2, Hill, 2022 fourth rnder
HAW 2, efc future second out: wingard 2022 fourth rounder
Hawks get Callaghan with 2.
GWS get Mac Andrew at 5.
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Well if they are under contract themâs the breaks right? If anything that is a positive - means less players will want to break their contract.
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Make those 4th rounders future picks and youâre in the ballpark.
So many deals, so little time: Which trades will get done before deadline?
With only a few days left of the Continental Tyres Trade Period, there are a few deals yet to be done
Jordan Dawson, Patrick Lipinski, Rory Lobb and Jordan Clark could all find new homes by the end of the Trade Period. Pictures: AFL Photos
IT WAS a busy first week of the Continental Tyres Trade Period but thereâs still plenty left to play out before Wednesday nightâs deadline.
Here is the latest on all the talks surrounding the players who have been in trade discussions so far.
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Peter Ladhams
Talks are ongoing with Sydney, who met with Ladhams over Zoom last week. Clubs, including Hawthorn, have baulked at Port Adelaideâs asking price of a first-round pick. One of the Swansâ picks in the 30s could be more likely to get the deal done, should a suitable deal be offered. Heâs contracted for 2022 and would be happy to return, so looks to be on a knifeâs edge. â Riley Beveridge
Peter Ladhams celebrates a goal against Essendon in 17, 2020. Picture: Getty Images
Jordan Clark
The speedsterâs move is being delayed while Geelong and Fremantle hold their ground. The Dockers have tabled pick No.22 in exchange for Clark, who is contracted for one more season, but the Cats want the valuable No.19 Fremantle secured from Gold Coast. The Dockers are not budging on a deal they believe is fair. Including a future pick alongside No.22 could be required. â Nathan Schmook
Geelongâs Jordan Clark is tackled by Melbourneâs Angus Brayshaw during round four, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Jordan Dawson
This one is set to drag on. The Swans and Crows were in dialogue on Friday about two new offers for Dawson, including a potential slide from pick No.4 to the Swansâ pick 12 and Dawson as well as a swap involving future first-round picks next year, but no clarity is likely to come on those negotiations until Monday. The Dawson deal has a bit to play out. â Callum Twomey
Sydneyâs Jordan Dawson celebrates a goal during round 17, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Rory Lobb
Looks increasingly likely to return to GWS as the Giants search for a way to satisfy Fremantle. After some initial friction in discussions, there were amicable talks on Friday after Lobbâs eagerness for a trade became clear. The forward will sacrifice significant money if he can join the Giants, but his move wonât happen unless the Dockers feel well compensated for a player with two years on a contract. Giants forward Bobby Hill is seeking a move to Victoria, which could create salary cap space and draft assets for the Giants to do a deal. â Nathan Schmook
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Fremantleâs Rory Lobb celebrates a goal during round 17, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Darcy Fort
Brisbane has identified Fort as the ruck support they want for 2022 next to Oscar McInerney with Eric Hipwood to miss most of the season with his knee injury. But he is contracted at the Cats for 2022 and Geelong wonât be letting him go unless they secure another ruckman in the merry-go-round of big men. Other pieces will need to fall into place before this move happens. â Callum Twomey
Brodie Grundy positions himself in front of Darcy Fort. Picture: AFL Photos
Max Lynch
Looks set for Hawthorn, who has prioritised his signing over Peter Ladhams. A bit to work out, with Collingwood yet to hear from the Hawks over a move. The Pies have given Lynch the freedom to explore his options, but would ideally like to retain him to provide support for Brodie Grundy. â Riley Beveridge
Hawk Jon Ceglar and Magpie Max Lynch in action during VFL round 16, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Jon Ceglar
Hawthorn has told the 30-year-old to look for options outside of the club despite having a year to run on his contract. Geelong has shown interest in Ceglar, a move which would unlock Darcy Fortâs passage to Brisbane. Ceglar is among the host of ruckmen who could switch clubs by Wednesday night. â Callum Twomey
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Hawk Jonathon Ceglar and Docker Lloyd Meek battle it out in round four, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Patrick Lipinski
The Pies started negotiations with the Bulldogs by offering pick 58 for Lipinski and then upped that offer to two picks in the 50s. But the Dogs have been hoping for better for the 23-year-old, with the Pies exploring other pick swaps with Richmond and the Dogs also looking at their options. The clubs are likely to find a trade that works to avoid seeing Lipinski go through the pre-season draft. â Callum Twomey
Patrick Lipinski in action during the Bulldogsâ win over North Melbourne in round 16, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Tristan Xerri
Wants to move to St Kilda, having fallen further down the pecking order at North Melbourne following the arrival of Callum Coleman-Jones. Heâs contracted for 2022 and the Kangaroos donât want to lose him. The Saints might have to stump up more than just pick No.62 to get this over the line. â Riley Beveridge
Tristan Xerri flies for a mark against the Western Bulldogs in round 16, 2021. Picture: Getty Images
Sam Powell-Pepper
The contracted midfielder is unlikely to land at West Coast but could still be on the move if interest from other rivals progresses. The Eaglesâ acquisition of priority target Sam Petrevski-Seton made it hard for them to also pursue Powell-Pepper, who is contracted for two more seasons but in search of more midfield opportunities. â Nathan Schmook
Sam Powell-Pepper attacks the ball in round 17, 2021. Picture: Getty Images
Jarrod Brander
West Coast is open to Brander exploring his options and will discuss his future if the young tall doesnât find a new home in the final three days of the Trade Period. With a contract offer not guaranteed, it is possible he could move to a Victorian club as a delisted free agent. Geelong and Hawthorn have been linked after talks with Carlton led nowhere. â Nathan Schmook
Jarrod Brander celebrates a goal with West Coast teammate Josh Kennedy against Collingwood in round five, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Darcy Macpherson
Was offered to North Melbourne as part of a deal that included pick No.19, but rejected the chance to move back to Victoria. Heâs happy and contracted at Gold Coast and wants to extend beyond 2022. Moves are happening to smooth out his contract. â Riley Beveridge
Darcy Macpherson dishes off a handball in Gold Coastâs clash against North Melbourne in round two, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Mason Cox
Had initial interest from Brisbane, but the Lions have instead focused their priorities on landing Darcy Fort from Geelong. Doesnât currently have a contract offer for 2022, but isnât attracting heaps of interest. His future could depend on Max Lynchâs move to Hawthorn. â Riley Beveridge
Collingwoodâs Mason Cox after a loss to the Western Bulldogs in round one, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
Bobby Hill
Hill wants to be traded to a Victorian club, with the Greater Western Sydney small forward catching the interest of Essendon as AFL.com.au reported on Saturday. Hill is contracted to the Giants until the end of next year so they will have to allow him to move and be satisfied with a trade. His move is likely to be tied up in the Rory Lobb desire to get to the Giants from Freo. â Callum Twomey
Greater Western Sydneyâs Bobby Hill runs with the ball during round two, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
And what about the Hawthorn four?
Clubs have been using the weekend to weigh up whether they will make a play for any of Tom Mitchell, Jaeger OâMeara, Jack Gunston and Chad Wingard who the Hawks would be willing to listen to offers for with an eye on more draft capital this year. No suitors had come forward but given the Hawksâ openness to listen to offers clubs may hold until late in the piece before showing their hand. â Callum Twomey
Hawthornâs Jaeger OâMeara and Tom Mitchell in round one, 2020. Picture: Getty Images/AFL Photos
The original contract cost still has to be accounted for by the new club