2022 Draft Watch (Part 2)

[barry_day]

Scott would also appreciate Wardlaw as a fellow St Kevins alumni.

[Saucy]

• Is a Warlord.

[G-Unit]

@Saucy

@G-Unit

The kid is a jet.

Is he though??

What I’m seeing/hearing:

• Highly driven
• Strong self-belief
• Distance in his kicking
• Neat disposal
• Highly competitive
• High production
• Sticks his tackles
• Excellent pair of hands, even in contested situations
• Goal sense
• Goal kicker
• Excellent size
• Tested well at the combine including equal 9th in the 2km
• Can play a variety of positions

There is a LOT to work with, no?

[Saucy]

I think he has has very low output so far.

I just don’t see it. I wouldn’t be taking him with Pick 4.

[jonovdp]

Averaging 28 disposals and 2 goals a game in 2022 is a low output?

[Saucy]

In the Under 18 Championships???

[barnz]

if you swapped him with sheezel hed probably average 20 and 8 goals

[G-Unit]

@Saucy

In the Under 18 Championships???

"The South Australian’s season was cut short by an ankle injury in August, after a strong showing at the National Championships. Phillipou played through some soreness in the tournament and made his best impact with a two-goal, 24-disposal showing against the Allies.

Yet to turn 18, Phillipou has a huge upside — likely to be the youngest player selected in the draft. If he were just days younger he’d be ineligible for the 2022 NAB AFL Draft."

[Saucy]

No thanks.

[Begbie]

@frosty

Caldwell is explosive I reckon…

I haven’t seen it at Essendon. The only thing exploding has been his hamstrings. But not seen him show explosive pace at training or in games.
Hopefully he can find that extra gear.

[groundcontrol]

Just in support of Jono and G Unit.

Philipou is composed and makes good decisions. Can’t say that about Tsatas.

That is the main difference as these are not things that are easily taught. They are traits of the most gifted players.

Also add superior mark, gol kicker, bigger, taller, and the youngest in the draft.

Watch his highlights v Vic Metro in the rain.

We don’t need another garden variety accumulator.

We do need class, goal kicking and composure.

[Ants]

@Tagger

If we wanted to do that, we should have done the trade with North that Adelaide did

The problem with that deal is it cost North 2022 points. As it is without #22 we can only afford to match a bid around 27ish. So if we’d done that deal we would have almost certainly been taking deficits through to 2023. Unless we traded 2023 picks which does kind of get you back to the same place.

@nickers

Hypothetically, say Walla returns and someone bids for Munkara after 40, does it essentially then boil down to Eyre vs pick 22 for that final list spot?

This is in the event that a bid for Davey comes after pick 22, of course.

I’m wondering, because I think it’s a fairly realistic scenario where Walla comes back, a bid for Davey comes after 22, and a bid for Munkara happens after 40 but still in the main draft (to keep us honest).

EDIT: probably should’ve posted this in the list maintenance thread, if mods wanna boot it over there.

In the bolded part, not really. As I said above without #22 we can only match a later bid. And that wipes picks to match J Davey and Munkara. So if we use #22 then we likely take a deficit to 2023, or trade out a 2023 pick for points.

In which case it becomes:

A) Eyre and a complete 2023 draft hand versus
B) #22 and compromised 2023 draft hand

Plus we will need 2023 delistings, for a stronger draft. Id be doing option A.

[jonovdp]

Tbh I just haven’t seen enough of Phillipou, other than Highlights and reading his stats.

He seems to fit the list need for us. And his highlights are exciting. But I’m not sure if he’s better than Humphrey & Tsatas…. Who I’ve watched a fair bit of.

[Ants]

@G-Unit

It sounds like we are looking to trade 22. We would only do that if a club has indicated to us they will be bidding early.

It may also be to use that list spot on Munkara and turn #22 into Davey and some future value (eg a future third).

I’d be open to trading back for an extra future first.

@frosty

Unless we are 100% sure that a bid isn’t coming in the teens we have to hold onto 22 so that on draft night we have points to match without going into debt for next year.

When a bid hasn’t come at some point (it might be 21, it might be 19 I don’t know how the points stack up), then we have the ability to trade that pick.

I’d like to think that we can use that to get an additional 2nd rounder next year while keeping points up our sleeve.

If we did @G-Unit’s idea above we’d probably trade our 2023 second for points. So effectively trade #4 and two firsts for an extra future first, #9, Davey, and maybe a future third.

[Ants]

@The_Craw

I’m a bit late to the thread and apologies if already discussed. In the event that Wardlaw falls to our pick, what is the benefit of getting him considering we’ve drafted Hobbs and have Caldwell as the developing young mids?

The minus is we’d miss the opportunity to get a taller midfielder, and he’s another midfield-only option.

I’m on the Philipou bandwagon.

[jonovdp]

A tall midfielder who is also a damaging forward, is a big area of need for us.

The Lack of versatility in our midfield is probably one of our biggest issues.

[Ants]

It’s definitely something Phillipou, Humphrey and Gibney all bring to the table.

[All-Star_Bomber_18]

@jonovdp

A tall midfielder who is also a damaging forward, is a big area of need for us.

We do have Perkins who if he can continue his projection can be that player

[Bomb_Doe]

I prefer we have another. Expands our options, let alone allowing for injuries.

[jonovdp]

@All-Star_Bomber_18

@jonovdp

A tall midfielder who is also a damaging forward, is a big area of need for us.

We do have Perkins who if he can continue his projection can be that player

Perkins is a handy forward. I wouldn’t say he’s damaging tho. He’s not a player who could cover Stringer in the forwardline.

But it’s also worth having a few midfielders who are damaging forwards.
That gives the defenders some headaches