2022 trade speculation (Part 3)

[EssendonPride1]

Gee we could do with some more “B graders” like 2021 Parish.

[Tyler]

@munna1

2021 he was a b grader.

Ridiculous, Parish was elite in 2021, arguably top 10 in the comp.

[munna1]

More that parish has higher value because of the younger age.

Taranto has been better for longer and is younger… i think…

[LeonBaker4Eva]

Exactly my point - bringing good players in.

[Tyler]

Parish is clearly better then Taranto and Taranto is only a little bit younger.

[EssendonPride1]

Parish is contracted, and guaranteed t1 compo if he leaves next year.

Would limit our FA acquisition, but if we matched I’d still think we’d get more than a pick around 10

[bltn]

If you were contending for the NOW, not 1 team would take Gulden/Bailey over Merrett, and i rate those guys.

[munna1]

I disagree, Tarranto is better in a better midfeild over all. Parish has had one good season… one very good season…
I just hope he can get back to that level.

[donsrule]

Equal 5th in Brownlow = B grade?

[darkknightpheonix]

@KingDon

@darkknightpheonix

@KingDon

All this talk of a hypothetical Shiel trade and the club’s so called reluctance to cut him loose is so farcical it’s hilarious.

For what we have invested in him to date no club would ever come close to putting up an offer that’s worth considering.

and thus this is the dodo thinking. you have to “win” the situation to be relevant and if you don’t win it it’s not worth it.

it’s also a continuation of the thinking “we’ve spent a long time, money and picks making this mistake, lets stick to it” just cos.

We don’t “need” a mother of all deals that “comes close” to covering the outlay that was initially outlayed for him.

What we “need” is to not be bogged down in the thinking that the past decisions of the club and specific people at the club has to be a noose around it moving forward.

that midfield group will no doubt improve. the only difference is
in your view it can’t improve without shiel, or it improves cos shiel is there
mine is it will improve whether shiel is there or not

Worth considering doesn’t have to be a mother of all deals or even a win just something that justifies moving him on. We can still develop with or without him as a starting mid or even in our best 22.

We don’t have a salary squeeze so there’s nothing stopping us honouring his contract. So I repeat forget the hypotheticals unless there is genuine interest in another club stumping up something of value then just move on already.

most of the board is based on hypotehtical situations, if that’s you issue, you’re prolly in the wrong place.

and my hypothetical was based around the mentality “we might as well keep them all cos you know injuries” in response to me saying they are scared to make a decision and be judged on whether it works out or not.

[munna1]

For one year.

[darkknightpheonix]

@munna1

His worth keeping for the standards he sets. Parish would demand a much higher draft pick. He is the that id have on the table, but it would need to be around pick 10ish.

Not that i think sheil is the better of the 2. More that he has high value because of his age. We need to diversify our midfeild. We looked a worse team when darc came back from injury. Purely because the mix in the mid was wrong.

Settefeild worth a punt but we need to allow him time on ball to adjust to a new team and to develop in his natural position.

Hopefully this allows stringer more to fwd, and prevents him injuries.

i’m curious what are these transferable quantifiable standards he sets ?

cos i’m pretty sure we are in the midst of a 5th review of why the ■■■■ the club is so poor.
granted it’s not all him or his doing but legit what ■■■■■■■ standards does this club have that a player can be kept for implementing them ?

[bomberboy05]

I feel like we’re getting setterfield just so that we bring in at least 1 player during the trade period to save face a little

[munna1]

Its a fair question. Granted

[Stressed_out]

We need a big bodied mid and that’s what he is. He might not be the best one but we’re not exactly the most enticing club. A match made in heaven.

[Tyler]

@munna1

I disagree, Tarranto is better in a better midfeild over all.

We had a better clearance and contested possession differential then GWS this year and finished above them on the ladder.

[Tyler]

I think we are getting him because he is the type of player we desperately need, theres a small chance that he can fulfill his potential if given more opportunity in his preffered position and hes cheap.

[EfC2017]

Jack Bytel would be worth a look with less senior exposure/injury history but potentially better upside if we are looking for inside depth.

[donsrule]

You said 2021

@munna1

2021 he was a b grader.

[Bomb_Doe]

yep - and he’ll be 25 in January. So age wise he’s going to be in the peaking window. Googling time to get him.