2023 FF Original Discussion Thread

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Sorry @Stoops, it took much longer sifting through the archives than I’d anticipated.

Trotters 1414

Player Position Total PredSco Difference %tage Dif
Crouch, B C 126 105 21 20%
Crouch, M C 120 90 30 33%
Curnow, C F 50 91 -41 -45%
Dangerfield C 84 80 4 5%
Daniher F 62 78 -16 -21%
Docherty CB 112 106 6 6%
Goldstein R 82 79 3 4%
Heeney FC 51 81 -30 -37%
Jordon FC 67 51 16 31%
Laird C 102 108 -6 -6%
Langford FB 96 73 23 32%
Marchbank B 52 55 -3 -5%
Neale C 104 97 7 7%
Noble B 51 85 -34 -40%
Short CB 95 93 2 2%
Sidebottom FC 89 79 10 13%
Taylor, S B 24 63 -39 -62%
Tuohy CB 47 65 -18 -28%
1414 1479 -65 -4%

defeated

topdon 1265

Player Position Total PredSco Difference %tage Dif
Aish CB 54 74 -20 -27%
Balta FB 74 64 10 16%
Brayshaw, And C 106 109 -3 -3%
Corr B 41 61 -20 -33%
Daicos, J FC 65 94 -29 -31%
De Koning, S B 64 45 19 42%
Duryea B 52 50 2 4%
Francis FB 36 44 -8 -18%
Hewett, G CB 105 67 38 57%
Hobbs FC 55 75 -20 -27%
Hollands, O C 87 58 29 50%
McIntosh C 57 60 -3 -5%
Naughton F 70 68 2 3%
Rohan F 70 52 18 35%
Rozee FC 109 105 4 4%
Schultz F 64 76 -12 -16%
Taranto FC 99 117 -18 -15%
Treacy FR 57 48 9 19%
1265 1267 -2 0%

Player Review

Career High
Ollie Hollands - topdon

Season High
Matt Crouch - Trotters

Season Low
Charlie Curnow (equal) - Trotters
Josh Daicos - topdon
Sam Taylor - Trotters

You Shall Be Smoten 1341

Player Position Total PredSco Difference %tage Dif
Atkins, R C 77 78 -1 -1%
Ballard B 58 62 -4 -6%
Butters FC 130 96 34 35%
Darling F 66 56 10 18%
Jones, C CB 38 69 -31 -45%
Lipinski FC 51 70 -19 -27%
MacDonald, C FC 90 66 24 36%
Melksham F 50 46 4 9%
Merrett C 128 113 15 13%
Murphy, L F 91 60 31 52%
Pendlebury CB 106 84 22 26%
Perryman CB 58 71 -13 -18%
Redman B 100 87 13 15%
Rioli, D B 51 87 -36 -41%
Saad B 44 73 -29 -40%
Steele C 59 102 -43 -42%
Treloar FC 107 103 4 4%
Williams, BJ FR 37 81 -44 -54%
1341 1404 -63 -4%

lost to

redbull 1357

Player Position Total PredSco Difference %tage Dif
Bruhn FC 66 70 -4 -6%
Clark, Jo B 67 73 -6 -8%
Close F 22 60 -38 -63%
Flanders FC 94 80 14 18%
Florent CB 55 73 -18 -25%
Graham, J FC 49 62 -13 -21%
Hickey R 75 70 5 7%
Hinge CB 124 72 52 72%
Keays FC 75 80 -5 -6%
Lewis, M F 98 71 27 38%
Marshall, T F 87 59 28 47%
McCluggage C 89 89 0 0%
Perkins FC 75 68 7 10%
Petty B 33 53 -20 -38%
Scott, B CB 105 81 24 30%
Scrimshaw B 71 65 6 9%
Sheezel FB 53 98 -45 -46%
Young, H B 119 87 32 37%
1357 1311 46 4%

Player Review:

PBs
Mitch Hinge - redbull

Career Low:
Brad Close - redbull

Season Low
Pat Lipinski - Smoten
Bailey J. Williams - Smoten

Other
Zak Butters’s 3rd highest ever score
Connor Macdonald’s 2nd highest ever score
Lachlan Murphy’s 2nd highest ever score
Daniel Rioli’s lowest score since 2021
Adam Saad’s lowest score since 2021
Jack Steele’s 2nd lowest score in the 5 year period
Hayden Young’s equal 3rd highest ever score

Crazy Bomber 1467

Player Position Total PredSco Difference %tage Dif
Adams, T C 50 77 -27 -35%
Atkins, T CB 80 76 4 5%
Caminiti F 41 51 -10 -20%
Coniglio FC 90 104 -14 -13%
Dale B 107 87 20 23%
Daniel B 83 93 -10 -11%
Evans F 61 37 24 65%
Hill, Brad CB 64 73 -9 -12%
Himmelberg, H FB 73 69 4 6%
Hunter, L FC 113 78 35 45%
Kelly, T C 112 100 12 12%
Liberatore C 133 105 28 27%
Lloyd, J B 92 90 2 2%
Nankervis R 70 105 -35 -33%
O’Meara C 67 80 -13 -16%
Sicily B 160 104 56 54%
Swallow FC 46 73 -27 -37%
Young, T B 25 37 -12 -32%
1467 1439 28 2%

defeated

Allblack 1380

Player Position Total PredSco Difference %tage Dif
Baker, L FB 71 71 0 0%
Brayshaw, Ang CB 104 82 22 27%
Cameron, C F 81 62 19 31%
Cincotta B 58 50 8 16%
Davies-Uniacke C 82 98 -16 -16%
Dunkley, J FC 81 110 -29 -26%
Gresham FC 70 71 -1 -1%
Heppell CB 103 82 21 26%
Houston B 46 93 -47 -51%
Kelly, Josh C 71 101 -30 -30%
Langdon, E C 55 73 -18 -25%
Macpherson F 67 80 -13 -16%
McGrath CB 62 82 -20 -24%
McVee CB 35 45 -10 -22%
Vlastuin B 71 83 -12 -14%
Witherden B 106 78 28 36%
Witts R 108 91 17 19%
Zorko FC 109 79 30 38%
1380 1431 -51 -4%

Player Review:

5 Yr High
Tom Liberatore - Crazy Bomber (possible career high?)

Season Low
Dan Houston - Allblack
Toby Nankervis - CB

Other
Lachie Hunter’s highest score since Rd 1, 2021
James Sicily’s 2nd highest ever score

Stoops 1670

Player Position Total PredSco Difference %tage Dif
Broad B 64 67 -3 -4%
Cripps, J F 81 68 13 19%
Cripps, P C 62 90 -28 -31%
Crisp CB 104 81 23 28%
Duncan CB 85 90 -5 -6%
English FR 131 119 12 10%
Macrae C 90 97 -7 -7%
Mitchell, T C 41 93 -52 -56%
Neal-Bullen F 90 72 18 25%
Newman B 139 93 46 49%
Parish C 113 107 6 6%
Prestia C 72 77 -5 -6%
Sinclair, J CB 83 100 -17 -17%
Smith, B B 99 82 17 21%
Smith, I FC 85 81 4 5%
Stanley R 105 68 37 54%
Wingard FC 88 63 25 40%
Ziebell FB 138 94 44 47%
1670 1542 128 8%

defeated

Dunlop 1622

Player Position Total PredSco Difference %tage Dif
Ash CB 97 84 13 15%
Boak C 71 63 8 13%
Bontempelli C 151 114 37 32%
Briggs FR 114 95 19 20%
Clark, H B 108 69 39 57%
Dawson, J CB 98 117 -19 -16%
Duggan B 96 95 1 1%
Elliott F 76 66 10 15%
Fogarty, L FC 26 62 -36 -58%
Greene F 78 90 -12 -13%
Hardwick B 72 79 -7 -9%
Johannisen F 65 74 -9 -12%
Mitchell, S FB 30 65 -35 -54%
Morrison FC 90 72 18 25%
Rowbottom C 98 79 19 24%
Stewart, T B 94 95 -1 -1%
Ward, C FC 105 68 37 54%
Wood FC 153 89 64 72%
1622 1476 146 10%

PB
Mason Wood - Dunlop

5Yr Low
Tom Mitchell - Stoops

Season Low
Lachie Fogarty - Dunlop

Other
Marcus Bontempelli’s 2nd highest score in the last 5 years
Hunter Clark’s 1st 100 since 2021
Nic Newman’s 2nd highest ever score
Rhys Stanley’s 1st 100 since 2021
Jack Ziebell’s 2nd highest score in 54 games

Top 10 Highest Scores in Finals

1784 - Stoops vs. Fudge, 2013 GF
1717 - Allblack vs. fogdog, 2019 GF
1696 - Fudge vs. Crazy Bomber, 2011 QF
1682 - Fudge vs. Screw Flanders, 2010 QF
1673 - Screw Flanders vs. You Shall Be Smoten, 2010 SF
1670 - Stoops vs. Dunlop, 2023 QF
1664 - Windy Dill vs. fogdog, 2015 PF
1658 - Crazy Bomber vs. Allblack, 2011 SF
1655 - Windy Dill vs. Crazy Bomber, 2015 QF
1652 - Screw Flanders vs. Fudge, 2010 QF

Highest Game Totals

3334 - Fudge (1682) vs. Screw Flanders (1652) - 2010 QF
3330 - Stoops (1784) vs. Fudge (1546) - 2013 GF
3320 - fogdog (1547) vs. Screw Flanders (1773) - Rd 19, 2011
3292 - Stoops (1670) vs. Dunlop (1622) - 2023 QF

Stoops’s Highest Ever Scores
1784 vs. Fudge, 2013 GF
1692 vs. free spirit, Rd 5, 2013
1670 vs. Dunlop, 2023 QF
1665 vs. fogdog, Rd 2, 2022
1627 vs. Dunlop, Rd 20, 2023
1622 vs. topdon, Rd 12, 2022
1620 vs. Neela, Rd 14, 2022
1606 vs. Windy Dill, Rd 5, 2014
1603 vs. Jefferson, Rd 3, 2021
1595 vs. Neela, Rd 7, 2023

Dunlop’s Highest Ever Scores
1706 vs. Vandrs, Rd 11, 2016
1686 vs. Blummers, Rd 12, 2023
1646 vs. Kozza, Rd 13, 2010
1645 vs. Stoops, 2014 EF
1634 vs. saladin, Rd 15, 2023
1622 vs. Stoops, 2023 QF
1609 vs. Neela, Rd 17, 2023
1606 vs. Blummers, 2016 SF
1601 vs. Alber_Goodthur, Rd 4, 2017
1547 vs. The_Mad_Bomber, Rd 9, 2023

Available Players are updated

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Best of luck to the coaches remaining.

870

@Dunlop I am unable to make the Cunnington delisting and Visenteni pick on the bench due to not having a game this week. Could you please make this change, along with delisting Membrey having come off LTI.

Thanks

871

I have delisted Harrison Petty to taken Jamaine Jones of the LTI list.

872

A particularly strong start for the @Trotters, holding Stewart to 20 below his average, whilst scoring well with Dangerfield turning in his 2nd highest score since Rd 6 and Tuohy scoring his 2nd highest for the year.

Putting their feet up for the week, @Stoops’s Isaac Smith delivered a season high and @Crazy_Bomber’s Taylor Adams scored his 2nd highest score for the season.

@Windy_Dill might also be interested in Ollie Henry scoring a PB.

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2nd Semi Final

Allblack vs. redbull


Head 2 Head: Allblack 2 – redbull 0

In Finals: First Meeting

Last Time: Rd 8: redbull 1249 lost to Allblack 1491

Overall Finals Record:
Allblack: 15 Matches – 9 Wins; 6 Losses
redbull: 1 Match – 1 Win

Record in Semi Finals:
Allblack: 4 Matches – 2 Wins; 2 Losses
redbull: Debut

Average Season Score: 1375 (4th) vs. 1274 (8th)

Average Last 4 Matches: 1458 (3rd) vs. 1321 (8th)

Record against Top 8:
5-5 vs. 1-7

80pt+ Players: 10 vs. 6

ALLBLACK
B: Alex Witherden; Nick Vlastuin; Alex Cincotta
HB: Andrew McGrath; Dan Houston; Dyson Heppell
C: Sam Banks; Josh Kelly; Ed Langdon
HF: Josh Dunkley; Dayne Zorko; Jade Gresham
F: Liam Baker; Charlie Cameron; Darcy Macpherson
R: Jarrod Witts; Angus Brayshaw; Luke Davies-Uniacke

IN: Banks*
OUT: McVee

REDBULL
B: Ollie Florent; Jack Scrimshaw; Mitch Hinge
HB: Jamaine Jones; Hayden Young; Jordan Clark
C: Bailey Scott; Ben Keays; Jack Graham
HF: Archie Perkins; Todd Marshall; Sam Flanders
F: Harry Sheezel; Mitch Lewis; Brad Close
R: Tom Hickey; Tanner Bruhn; Hugh McCluggage

IN: J.Jones
OUT: Petty (inj)

Predicted Scores: 1429 vs. 1348 (+16 from original)

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1st Semi Final

Dunlop vs. Trotters – Career vs. Career/John McCarthy Cup


Head 2 Head: Dunlop 7 – Trotters 12 (Trotters have won 5 of the past 7)

In Finals: Dunlop 2 – Trotters 1

Last Time: Rd 4: Dunlop 1249 lost to Trotters 1297

Last Time in Finals: 2014 Semi Final: fogdog 1201 lost to Dunlop 1426

Overall Finals Record:
Dunlop: 26 Matches – 13 Wins; 13 Losses
Trotters: 27 Matches – 13 Wins; 14 Losses

Record in Semi Finals:
Dunlop: 7 Matches – 5 Wins; 2 Losses
Trotters: 6 Matches – 3 Wins; 3 Losses

Average Season Score: 1458 (3rd) vs. 1377 (5th)

Average Last 4 Matches: 1523 (2nd) vs. 1371 (6th)

Record against Top 8:
6-4 vs. 7-3

80+pt Players: 10 vs. 9

DUNLOP
B: Isaac Cumming; Tom Stewart; Blake Hardwick
HB: Liam Duggan; Jordan Dawson; Lachie Ash
C: Karl Amon; Travis Boak; Seb Ross
HF: Harry Morrison; Mason Wood; Cal Ward
F: Jamie Elliott; Toby Greene; Jack Higgins
R: Kieren Briggs; Marcus Bontempelli; James Rowbottom

IN: Amon; Cumming; Higgins; Ross
OUT: Johannisen (inj); H.Clark; L.Fogarty; S.Mitchell
NEW: Seb Ross (Mad Bomber)

TROTTERS
B: Darcy Byrne-Jones; Sam Taylor; John Noble
HB: Zac Tuohy; Jayden Short; Sam Docherty
C: Rory Laird; Matt Crouch; Patrick Dangerfield
HF: Isaac Heeney; Joe Daniher; Jason Jordon
F: Dan Butler; Charlie Curnow; Kyle Langford
R: Todd Goldstein; Brad Crouch; Lachie Neale

IN: DBJ; Butler
OUT: Sidebottom (inj); Marchbank
NEW: Dan Butler (Mad Bomber)

Predicted Scores: 1484 (-18 vs. pre-round) vs. 1481 (+13)

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Not a bad start but would have preferred 90+ from Noble. He’s scored six tons this year including one in round one against the Cats.

Goldstein has been woeful and started with -9 after three frees against. Hopefully Heeney’s good start offsets Goldy.

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Super pleased that the Bulls are taking it to All Black. McCluggage was huge.

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I’ll be off for the remainder of the night, so here’s an update:

Dunlop 324 (4) vs. Trotters 772 (10)
Predicted: 1449 vs. 1411

  • Jack Buckley has replaced Travis Boak (ill) in the selected side. Not ideal.

Trotters in a strong position on the back of his Crow mids, and Bont will cop either a Finn or Nash tag tomorrow with Bevo flagging playing him forward, so he’s certainly not going to be repeating his 151.

Allblack 624 (8) vs. redbull 918 (11)
Predicted: 1365 vs. 1409

  • Greg Clark will replace Sam Banks should he not be sub/late inclusion

Redbull has jumped into favoritism on the back of McCluggage & Sheezel with an assist from a disappointing performance from Dunkley. A mighty effort also from Hinge posting 93 after hyperextending his knee and initially looking doubtful to keep playing.

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Congrats @Dunlop

I’ve saved my worst performance to the most important week.

But pleased that I’m going out in another finals campaign and against the founding godfather of the league.

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I’m not counting the defending champions out yet. I seem to recall your premature congratulations before our Easter Monday clash as well, before my lot bottled a 67ave chase - incidentally the same margin you currently lead by.

We’ve still a long way to go, despite your abysmal luck last night. Short, in particular, should have fun today, given St Kilda are just about the worst team in the league for conceding points to play-making defenders. Sam’s capable of scoring 20-40 higher than he’s predicted for.

You’ve got the points on the board and I’ve barely started so there’s a lot of things that could go wrong for me today - for starters, I’ve bungled my emg order this week putting Fogarty 3rd, so you’ve got 12 chances for Luke Edwards’s 8p game to count and remove 20-50pts off my predicted.

There’s a big watch on Port Adelaide today, who seemingly don’t utilise Collingwood’s feel ill and stay home policy, as flu has run rampant through their squad with multiple players including Allblack’s Dan Houston missing training during the week - Boak incidentally wasn’t among them, so Dan might end being fine. None of their emergencies played in the SANFL - so there will probably be at least 1 other late scratching.

Allblack 1005 (12) vs. redbull 1200 (13)

LATE CHANGE: Greg Clark has replaced Sam Banks in Allblack’s selected side - Banks played VFL yesterday.

redbull’s set up a handy lead to progress on the back of a timely PB from Jordan Clark and another ton from last week’s hero Hayden Young.

Predicted: 1420 vs. 1461

To Play:
1.10pm: 0 vs. 2 (Lewis & Scrimshaw)
3.20pm: 3 (Baker, Gresham & Vlastuin) vs. 1 (Graham)
4.40pm: 2 (Houston & Kelly) vs. 1 (Marshall)

Dunlop 419 (5) vs. Trotters 956 (13)

Predicted: 1449 vs. 1337

To Play:
1.10pm: 4 (Amon, Bont, Hardwick & Morrison) vs. 0
3.20pm: 3 (Higgins, Seb Ross & Wood) vs. 3 (Butler, Crouch & Short)
4.40pm 6 (Ash, Briggs, Buckley, Cumming, Greene & Ward) vs. 2 (Byrne-Jones & Taylor)

Best of luck to the other 3 teams.

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@Allblack is on the charge!

98pts the difference and he’s suddenly the favourite to progress again.

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My count is it is I have Marshall and 56 points against Josh Kelly and Dan Houston with a half to play.

Wish I had Bergman in the starting 18!

882

Waiting on late adjustments.

57pts the redbull lead at the half. Allblack with the extra player and 2 fantasy stars vs. Todd Marshall.

883

Marshall not getting near it. Key forwards aren’t great fantasy players and they have let me down big time today - Marshall and Lewis sub par.

884

Slowest late adjustments for the season at 40mins - but good news for Allblack with an extra tackle awarded to Gresham.

17 the lead for redbull, it looks forlorn but Kelly’s only scored 13 in the time I’ve been watching, so if Marshall can have a purple patch, he’s not without a show.

885

Houston passed to Marshall for the goal. Ridiculous

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Allblack up by 2. Should be comfortable from here. Marshall & Houston currently on the bench.

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Houston toying with the Bulls. Too good. Go well the next few weeks.

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