2023 trade talk (Part 3)

No they have been working on FA targets, which you want to dismiss. They all take work but one doesn’t cost any draft picks.

Good grief. I haven’t dismissed it at all.

You asked if they have been sitting on their hands all year.

You are dismissing the efforts it takes to get FA players.

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In terms of TRADE targets. Not that difficult.
They have done amazingly in the FA space.

I think the strategy has been well formed this year.

McKay in and turning BZT into Duursma is excellent list management work. Genuinely top shelf strategic work.

Gresham being 26 years old as a FA is very very sound strategy.

Goldstein makes sense from a coaching perspective.

Maintaining current draft hand is sound, but if they somehow improve the draft picks, then youd have to say it’s been a tremendously intentional and well executed off season.

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I should say that I am actually pleased that we arent seeking to trade in players that would significantly weaken our 2023 or 2024 draft hand.

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The club has been clear that their main focus is FA, not trading which costs draft picks, especially for contracted players. FA isn’t about getting in top tier players but building a more balanced list and depth, two things we have lacked. If we can trade it will be carefully done, such as Duursma, so that we do not impact too greatly on our early picks.

I think at this point it is a good strategy. Our chasing contracted players hasn’t been stellar in the past and we need to be building through the draft as well.

I would have liked to see us off-load either Guefli or Snelling, but there may not be much of a market for them.

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That is certainly true.

Noble run over your dog?

I just find your views on him odd, thats all. He’s a handy player, imo

I mean, like i said - you dont play 3 seasons in a row consecutively in a top 4 side if your terrible, surely?

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17 and 18 (from North) for 9?

Would WC then bite at 3 and 9 (from North) for 1?

nah because norf would just take Reid and Curtin

WCE want either 1 or 2, they won’t take a deal that doesn’t get them that

Not that it’s really material to your point, but one of those years collingwood finished 17th.

Right, the deal might require an agreement that North won’t take Curtin. But i suppose if this was the case, they might as well just trade 2 and 9 for 1. Surely WC would take that?

Giving up Reid though. Geez. Imagine that.

Next year or in the future? I could give you about 5 players that I’d prefer over duursma in the 20 to 40 range of the draft. Guys that play positions that actually fill a need.

I wouldnt give up Reid if I was WCE. If I was them Id ve playing with the 2024 picks to try and move higher in 2023.

No talk about the Ambrosio trade, surely we’d just bank a future 3rd for him?

I’d say Port will push for our pick 30, if we do end up trading it then I’d try and bank a future 2nd in return (likely 3rd rounder). If Port finish top 4 next year we’d be swapping about our pick 30 now for a future pick at about 40 (after academy picks) which is about fair for BZT/Duursma.

Would leave us with (hopefully) a future 1st, two (BZT) 2nd rounders and two (Ambrosio) future 3rd rounders to play with next year, along wit using our pick 9 on someone this year and Goldstein, Gresham, McKay and Duursma.

No a bad net haul.

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No doubt if a Oliver or Naughton was available we would be all over it. And I imagine we inquired about both of those players

Pity we have missed out on Shultz, but I’m not sure how we’d get the trade done for him. Pick 9 is too much and 27 is too little

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They have so little talent it’s hard not to try and trade pick 1.
If they can get pick 2, another top 10 and a late 1st they probably will.

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