Jeepers
Nobody who criticises Goddard here is talking about his career at St Kilda.
And I’m not sure why anyone would.
There’s a massive difference between passionate and petulant.
So he came to Essendon so he could play loose, unaccountable footy and whinge at people? Come on.
I gave context as to who he was as a player. He was a key cog in a team that we HOPE to be. One that was so well drilled defensively that they should have won at least one GF.
Depends on who you ask. He might have given some hard truths to team mates that didn’t take kindly to it. Given where we are now, maybe they should have listened a little more rather than sulked about it.
To be honest though, I haven’t read Chapman’s account of it so i’m talking a little license with my point here.
He cried when Essendon beat his former team by 100 points.
Good footballer.
Not a good leader.
I guess that’s that.
I would be taking Heppell’s contract offer off the table, not only due to his performance yesterday, but I’m not sure how any coach that may enter this situation would want this cloud sticking around.
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It’s certainly part of it.
There’s the pretzels thing as well.
He is who he is. Very good footballer.
Not a leader. Way too emotional.
That he was playing seventh back didn’t help, but the way he played it didn’t help either.
sigh
I’m Tired of this myth that he was a good, mature, inspiring leader at Essendon. He was not.
And that’s Fine.
If he genuinely was, then he’d be sought out.
He’d still be driven to lead.
Neither of those things are true.
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I prefer my leaders like Heppell. A cardboard cutout who shows no emotion aside from fake emotion. Goddard would be perfect for us on field at this point.
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Obviously there is a middle ground between people who don’t care and people who care too much.
But look, if Goddard is your idea of a captain, please feel free to name literally any good captain who behaved like him.
Anyone.
Who behaved like him?
You mean pulling players up when they didnt comply with team instructions or show anger when the team was going poorly?
I dunno, all of them aside from our own?
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Yes, but a five year old can point at everyone else and say it’s your fault we’re losing and carry on like a pork chop.
That’s not what a leader does.
Can you imagine Selwood, Pendlebury, urgh Hodge, pointing and yelling til they’re red in the face and looking like they’re going to cry?
Watson, Daniher, O’Donnell, Hird…friggin…Ken Fletcher…
Selwood and Hodge absolutely yes.
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Never seen them carry on like Goddard in my life.
Have you seen what we’ve been dishing up lately?
We gave up late goals before half time so we went into the break losing. He was ■■■■■■. Heppell stood there dumbfounded.
You can just assert that all you like. He was someone who demanded things of his teammates. Who’s doing that nowadays?
During the pretzel incident, this is what his Saints teammates had to say:
" Firstly, as former teammates Nick Dal Santo and Leigh Montagna told Fox Sports News’ AFL Tonight last week, when Goddard throws the toys out of the cot, it comes from a good place.
He has high standards. He expects a lot from his teammates. He hates to lose."
Yeah, who would want a team mate like that…
ah well
I mean, he could be a snide, obnoxious, negative, whiny know all but that probably wouldn’t get him far either, would it Alex?
I’d love a teammate like that.
I’d hate them to be captain. Or in any sort of leadership role.
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ha…
Good lord.
Nice quote mining