#22 - Jake Carlisle: Gone

This should satisfy Adelaide and Saints but will we be happy with downgrading a couple of picks

ADELAIDE
IN
4, 23ish

OUT
9, 13, 28

ESSENDON
IN
5, 9, 28

OUT
Carlisle, 4, 23

SAINTS
IN
Carlisle, 13

OUT
5

Or they could just do the right thing and cough up pick 5! It is unders

What on earth? We downgrade our first and second rounders, lose Carlisle and get pick 9? NOPE.

Saint can throw in Billings.

This should satisfy Adelaide and Saints but will we be happy with downgrading a couple of picks

ADELAIDE
IN
4, 23

OUT
9, 13, 28

How does that satisfy Crows? 5 pick upgrade on a second rounder hardly accounts for the difference between pick 5 and picks 9/13.

This should satisfy Adelaide and Saints but will we be happy with downgrading a couple of picks

ADELAIDE
IN
4, 23

OUT
9, 13, 28

ESSENDON
IN
5, 9, 24

OUT
Carlisle, 4, 23

SAINTS
IN
Carlisle, 13, 28

OUT
5, 24

Glad you are not our recruiter.

This should satisfy Adelaide and Saints but will we be happy with downgrading a couple of picks

ADELAIDE
IN
4, 23

OUT
9, 13, 28

ESSENDON
IN
5, 9, 24

OUT
Carlisle, 4, 23

SAINTS
IN
Carlisle, 13, 28

OUT
5, 24

Glad you are not our recruiter.


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Emma Quayle talks Carlol on Age FB question time:

ā€œI don’t think he’s pick 5 but he is not very far off pick 5 (particularly when you consider there could be 3 academy kids bid for in the first five, essentally turning 5 into 8)ā€

This should satisfy Adelaide and Saints but will we be happy with downgrading a couple of picks

ADELAIDE
IN
4, 23

OUT
9, 13, 28

How does that satisfy Crows? 5 pick upgrade on a second rounder hardly accounts for the difference between pick 5 and picks 9/13.

Adelaide gets our 4 not 5. This still does account for 500 point loss to them. Give a 3rd rounder and that should be covered. Really depends on what they want: two lower 1st rounds or a high pick on a kid they really want.
This should satisfy Adelaide and Saints but will we be happy with downgrading a couple of picks

ADELAIDE
IN
4, 23

OUT
9, 13, 28

ESSENDON
IN
5, 9, 24

OUT
Carlisle, 4, 23

SAINTS
IN
Carlisle, 13, 28

OUT
5, 24

Glad you are not our recruiter.


Saint aren’t going to give up 5 on its own. You can bank on it.

If saints trade 5 for 9&13 from Adelaide
We should ask for both picks for Carlisle

Emma’s just another who overrates draft picks - that’s her MO - all about the draft - of course she’s going to big up draft choices.

Ffs, using the AFL’s academy bidding points system for anything other than empirically satisfying Academy bids is akin to using supercoach points! It’s an arbitrary value given to a pick number by office bound boffins. It has no context beyond those needing to match a bid.

Ffs, using the AFL's academy bidding points system for anything other than empirically satisfying Academy bids is akin to using supercoach points! It's an arbitrary value given to a pick number by office bound boffins. It has no context beyond those needing to match a bid.
True. I was just throwing that up there for some fun and because the Saints seem to be shopping around for some lower picks to ship to us.
Needs a wog in the room to negotiate. My mum would would walk out of a meeting with pick 5 and Billings and have that Finnis ā– ā– ā– ā–  rocking in the fetal position under a table.

But, but, but…isn’t Dodoro a wog?

This should satisfy Adelaide and Saints but will we be happy with downgrading a couple of picks

ADELAIDE
IN
4, 23

OUT
9, 13, 28

ESSENDON
IN
5, 9, 24

OUT
Carlisle, 4, 23

SAINTS
IN
Carlisle, 13, 28

OUT
5, 24

Worst suggestion of the post season so far, you have just said Carlisle is worth about pick 16ish.

This should satisfy Adelaide and Saints but will we be happy with downgrading a couple of picks

ADELAIDE
IN
4, 23

OUT
9, 13, 28

ESSENDON
IN
5, 9, 24

OUT
Carlisle, 4, 23

SAINTS
IN
Carlisle, 13, 28

OUT
5, 24

Glad you are not our recruiter.


Saint aren’t going to give up 5 on its own. You can bank on it.

Still wondering why we’re downgrading our first 2 picks and losing Carlisle. Your suggestion is very poor and heavily in St Kilda’s favour.

This should satisfy Adelaide and Saints but will we be happy with downgrading a couple of picks

ADELAIDE
IN
4, 23

OUT
9, 13, 28

ESSENDON
IN
5, 9, 24

OUT
Carlisle, 4, 23

SAINTS
IN
Carlisle, 13, 28

OUT
5, 24

Worst suggestion of the post season so far, you have just said Carlisle is worth about pick 16ish.


Did I? Whats an uncontracted Carlisle worth to you? Perhaps you should read the first sentence in my post again

I have a complicated deal that I think amounts to a very fair deal.

Carlisle for pick 5.

Ffs, using the AFL's academy bidding points system for anything other than empirically satisfying Academy bids is akin to using supercoach points! It's an arbitrary value given to a pick number by office bound boffins. It has no context beyond those needing to match a bid.

I’ll admit the system processsss that have been implemented is almost bordering on diobolical.

But the science and data behind the values of the picks is backed up by a pretty good peer reviewed research study. Which is based on work done in the USA. So in an isolated sense valuing the relative weighting of picks is actually quite reasonable.

A few clubs used it toward the end of the last trade period for pick swaps.

Comparing it to anything else like this years vs next years draft is not a good idea and hence where is becomes very subjective and useless.

I have a complicated deal that I think amounts to a very fair deal.

Carlisle for pick 5.

Too difficult to understand. Not enough words!