#22 - Jake Carlisle: Gone

So. Have we done the deal yet?

NO DEAL!

How many cases of cash Carlol open?

Can we just start a nightclub/drugz thread? Jeffy can moderate it.

So. Have we done the deal yet?

NO DEAL!

How many cases of cash Carlol open?

Gary Buckenara talks Carlol on Herald Sun Live chat just now:

" For both clubs, St Kilda and Essendon, it’s a win at pick 5. St Kilda gain a young key position player and Essendon get the opportunity of a pick 5. In this draft, yes, top 10 picks are very very valuable so I understand St Kilda saying pick 5 is too much but for me, to get a player of Carlisle’s ability is a win for them in a critical positional need and Essendon get into the drafts with picks 4 and 5"

The insanity here is that it appears stupidly pigheaded. Let's say they spend a week trying to get (example) 10 and 19 for pick 5 and 42. Then we get 10. All this crap to retain 19? They could probably find a way to get our 2nd round pick anyway and be just a couple of picks worse.
Nah. They keep 10 and we get 19.
Gary Buckenara talks Carlol on Herald Sun Live chat just now:

" For both clubs, St Kilda and Essendon, it’s a win at pick 5. St Kilda gain a young key position player and Essendon get the opportunity of a pick 5. In this draft, yes, top 10 picks are very very valuable so I understand St Kilda saying pick 5 is too much but for me, to get a player of Carlisle’s ability is a win for them in a critical positional need and Essendon get into the drafts with picks 4 and 5"

I agree with the above, think 5 for Carlisle is a fair trade, win, win for both clubs, no one loses. Saints are just win and make us lose.

So Adelaide has picks picks 9, 13 & 28
Is pick 5 = 9 & 13 (maybe also swap saints 24 for adelaides 28)
Then we get 9 & 24/28 for Carlisle.

Richmond and Carlton at loggerheads over Yarran.

On that, could we see a successful 4 club trade:

Saints Trade Pick 5 + 24, Get Carlisle + Pick 12
Carlton Trade Yarran, Get Pick 24
Richmond Trade Pick 12 + 31, Get Pick 23 and Yarran
Essendon Trade Pick 23 + Carlisle, Get Pick 5 + 31

On second thought Adelaide probably wont want to do that unless we downgrade 4 for 5 and they get 4.

I dont understand people who would would rather have two in the teens than pick 5. Going into the draft with 4 and 5 would be HUGE

The insanity here is that it appears stupidly pigheaded. Let's say they spend a week trying to get (example) 10 and 19 for pick 5 and 42. Then we get 10. All this crap to retain 19? They could probably find a way to get our 2nd round pick anyway and be just a couple of picks worse.
Nah. They keep 10 and we get 19.

I absolutely agree that is what they will try to do, but sorry to tell you this StKilda… PICK 19 IS A SECOND ROUND PICK, YOU FREAKS!

Just hand over pick 5.

I dont understand people who would would rather have two in the teens than pick 5. Going into the draft with 4 and 5 would be HUGE
Because some of us think we have enough holes in the list that we need to roll the dice on getting 2 good players over 1. It also hedges the bets if #5 turns into Gumby/Myers/Pears/Kav/Melksham.

I would be rather surprised if the Crows gave up 9 & 13 for 5 just like that.

On second thought Adelaide probably wont want to do that unless we downgrade 4 for 5 and they get 4.
Adelaide should only trade for 3 off gcs. Then saints deal with gcs. For 2 picks.
On second thought Adelaide probably wont want to do that unless we downgrade 4 for 5 and they get 4.
Adelaide should only trade for 3 off gcs. Then saints deal with gcs. For 2 picks.

GCS will not do that trade imo.

I would be rather surprised if the Crows gave up 9 & 13 for 5 just like that.

I agree

I dont understand people who would would rather have two in the teens than pick 5. Going into the draft with 4 and 5 would be HUGE
Because some of us think we have enough holes in the list that we need to roll the dice on getting 2 good players over 1. It also hedges the bets if #5 turns into Gumby/Myers/Pears/Kav/Melksham.

Pears, kav and melk weren’t top 5 picks. Myers is a very, very good player when fit and gumby was the bad, unlucky one. You’ve suggested more players who went bust around the picks you want. Top 5 talent is normally a pretty safe bet

“TRADE SEASON!” … “SILLY SEASON!”

This should satisfy Adelaide and Saints but will we be happy with downgrading a couple of picks

ADELAIDE
IN
4, 23

OUT
9, 13, 28

ESSENDON
IN
5, 9, 24

OUT
Carlisle, 4, 23

SAINTS
IN
Carlisle, 13, 28

OUT
5, 24

What on earth? We downgrade our first and second rounders, lose Carlisle and get pick 9? NOPE.