#24 Nick Bryan - ACL recovery thru 2025

i’m very pleased and impressed with what he’s shown at VFL level this year. His progress has been significant.

He’s very much in the witts/goldy mold of ruckmen. A bit cumbersome but gets to where he needs to get too. he’s more polished than those two and has a better leap. He needs about another two preseasons in the gym before he can compete with senior AFL ruckmen thought and probably a few more still before he can dominate some of them. He’ll get there though i reckon. We just to be patient.

how we fit both him and draper into the team though is complicated. bryan is every inch a stand alone no.1 ruck to my eye. he doesn’t have the speed he needs to be consistently dangerous as a forward. Draper does though. Draper’s forward craft has improved a lot this year, his work around the ground as ruckmen hasn’t really though. Draper’s big impact is in the centre creating chaos with his strength and breakaway speed.

i wouldn’t mind seeing them work as a combination where draper does say 70% of the centre square work and then pushes forward but only about 30% of the round the ground stuff while bryan does the opposite. bryan isn’t quite ready for that though (if we want to be really competitive this year). If we weren’t in the finals race that’s 100% what i’d be doing. you could probably make a strong argument we should be doing it anyway.

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https://vfl.aflmstats.com/player/Nick_Bryan

Correct. This cant be taught. I dont doubt there’s a bit if talent there, but ive seen junior footy ruckman play with more intensity. Its painful to watch.

Its like he has about 4 bongs before the game

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Bit like Wright or Langford in their first few years then.

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his competitiveness is not an issue at VFL level but at afl level he doesn’t have the physical tools he needs to stand his ground effectively

his numbers are trending in the right direction in the vfl

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Yep can do it all day every day against 95kg part timers

Needs to replicate it against 110kg AFL players

How long did Paddy Ryder take to get there as a ruck?

23yo, 24 ?

Tried that once…as did the great Brent Croswell

I sort of agree with it. I still think it’s unlikely he makes it, but I’m fine to give him next year to prove himself.
He can still get something out of his career (even if it’s not the next Dean Cox).
I thought the same of David Hille when he was getting games. He looked timid against all ruckmen but it wasn’t until he got some strength and muscle into him and he learned how to use it to his advantage that he became a ‘better than average’ ruck. And the timid David Hille wasn’t so much of an issue anymore.

Absolutely he has to play.
I just want him to get stronger with his hands. If you are getting two hands on the ball you need to be taking them. Hopefully just a confidence thing

I’m tired of this narrative. It’s plain wrong. He’s been getting good disposal numbers in the seconds and he had seven disposals in less than a quarter and a half against the Dockers.

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I think hes most like English and I dont expect him to be a regular senior player until hes 24.

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Confidence and strength

IMO

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Had a look at Bryan’s game.

Q1

  • Loose ball get on wing, delivered 50m pass which Stringer marked on the 50.
  • marking contest from Freo kick out. Didn’t influence although ball was spoiled
  • won free kick in ruck contest against Darcy. 20m pass to Parish
  • Ruck contest against Darcy. Darcy won tap. Went nowhere.
  • ruck contest against Darcy. Bryan taps into Parish’s chest. Parrish wrapped up.
  • ruck contest against Johnson. Bryan tapped straight to Parish and we clear.
  • pack Marking contest on Freos 50. Ball spills to ground. Jackson got hands to it.
  • boundary throw in. Darcy taps but Parish gathers.
  • Bryan gathers loose ground ball but free kick paid to Freo
  • centre bounce against Treacy. Bryan wins nice tap that Hobbs almost takes away but gets a bad bounce.
  • receives ground ball on wing and handpasses to Laverde
  • wins hit out at centre bounce against Darcy. Brayshaw wins 50/50 contest with Parish and clears.
  • wins hit out at centre bounce against Darcy and ball hits Stringer in face.

Q2

  • Centre bounce against Darcy. Darcy wins, Serong rushed clearance.
  • Pack contest on wing. Bryan competes. Knocked to ground and we clear.
  • boundary throw in. Darcy taps to Freo player. They clear.
  • Bryan gathers loose ball in D50. Handpasses to Guelfi. We should clear but missed handpass means we don’t.
  • Center bounce against Darcy. Bryan taps to Hobbs who clears.
  • Bryan receives handball on HFF. Kicks long and Martin marks 45 out.
  • Bryan against Jackson at centre bounce. Taps to Parish who clears.
  • long ball into Freo forward line. Big pack, Bryan doesn’t influence. They kick goal.
  • centre clearance vs Jackson. Jackson wins tap. Freo take it forward.
  • boundary throw in. Bryan wins. Freo player fumbles.
  • pack contest. Jackson takes good contested mark over Bryan and Phillips.
  • Bryan vs Darcy at centre bounce. Bryan taps ball into space but Freo get to ball first.
  • centre bounce vs Darcy. Bryan taps straight to Parish. We clear.
  • throw up in our 50. Darcy knocks it to Stringer.
  • boundary throw in vs Darcy. Bryan knocks it to ground but Fyfe clears.
  • long kick to pack. Bryan spoils.

Q3

  • Darcy takes mark on boundary line in front of Bryan.
  • Darcy wind tap from boundary throw in but we get holding the ball free
  • long ball into our forward line. Bryan there but lets Wright fly for mark.
  • boundary throw in vs Jackson. Wins tap but sharked by JOM.
  • one on one contest on wing which Bryan brings up ground and gets it over boundary line.
  • boundary throw in vs Jackson. Wins tap, parish clears.
  • pack contest with Jackson. Doesn’t really influence but ball comes to ground.
  • Jackson gets goal side of Bryan through work rate but is run down by Martin
  • receives hand pass from McGrath and kicks to Durham who marks just over boundary line. Out on full.
  • boundary throw in vs Jackson. Wins tap but sharked by Serong
  • Bryan takes strong contested mark against Jackson on wing. Handpasses to Hobbs.
    Subbed off
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Can you please provide a synopsis in the form of an Executive Summary?

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look at this. he’s got one of the best ruck contest win %s in the league.

and his % to advantage is second to mitch owens alone who isn’t a ruckmen

if you can’t get excited about a 21 year old ruckman doing that i don’t know what to say

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Very very promising signs in a very very tiny sample size.

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yes the sample size is small it has to be said.

compared to other rucks under 24 he stacks up well too

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the wheelo stats website has been incredible, it really shows the most important stats of the game

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that is very very funny, you owe me a new keyboard, mine just wore my tea.

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