I don’t think anyone outside of champion data really knows.
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You can criticise every stat like this. “Oh but this player takes contested marks over a big pack whereas this one only takes them when they are up against a small defender and have the mismatch”. Criticising stats like this is just a way for people to confirm there own bias.
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As is using stats in isolation to confirm a bias, goes both ways
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Given I wasn’t making a statement about any players, curious to see what bias I was trying to confirm?
I didn’t mean to imply you were doing it.
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I don’t think it’s as simple as this. Both clearly have flaws and Parish clearly the better player now, but in terms of output it’s not unreasonable to suggest you’d get the same level of output from Tsatas and you’d save about $600k in doing so.
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He played a couple more than we’ve made him previously.
This is true I geuss you have to take the small wins
Do you reckon he’d scare any opposition midfielder? Like " Oh poop, I’ve got Parish on me this week". Or opposition coaches worried about who to match up on him?
He’s had a tag put on him often by opposition coaches. And also had games where he’s been BOG many times over. And polled well in the Brownlow.
The notion he’s just some middling player is way off the mark.
Got his weaknesses for sure but every player does.
Let’s see how he goes with a few more games back under his belt with his touch back and feel for intensity of AFL footy again.
Need only look at Caldwell most recently in his first game back post injury when half of blitz wanted him dropped only for him to fire up in subsequent games
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That my friend is most of our players.
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It is completely absurd to think Tsatas can give anywhere near the output now, and is extremely unlikely in the future.
AA from a top 5 pick is about 1 in 4 chance. Parish is one and is capable of absolutely dominating games. Flaws aside that is a very high ceiling and he is a player that walked into a reasonable level of midfield capability from day one.
Tsatas cant get a game and people are questioning he will be an AFL player let alone AA. From what I can find, his chances of AA capable are basically just above zero as Petracca is the only player in history to have been a top 10 pick and played 15 games or less in his first 3 years and gone on to AA. For note Pendles was 18 in 3 years and AA too, but outside those two there is none.
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I want both out.
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Stats are only good for fantasy football.
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Its funny, stats are used to confirm any good player in the league.
Its basically universally used by everyone… footy fans, media, coaching groups etc – highlighting differrnt stats to strengthen or weaken an argument or opinion.
The good thing about stats is there are plenty of them. Which combined help paint a picture of how a player is playing and what they are doing well or poorly.
This forum was gushing over Caldwells quarter the other week based on stats (and rightly so), yet it doesnt apply to Parish because ■■■■ Parish.
From the weekend i would highlight Parish sucked at kicking, turned the ball over too often, handballed really well, won a lot of clearances and ground balls, and had a high pressure act number.
I would say based on stats, its pretty clear what he did well and where he needs to improve.
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Probably both in this week.
Tsatas won’t come in. I think we go with a tall and Hobbs into the middle.
Parish with 8 kicks, 5 of them turn overs. 18 handballs. 26 disposals, 200 meters gained. We’re seriously gifting this bloke a midfield spot
Zero damage with ball in hand.
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If we are even semi serious we should be having a chat to him and his manager
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“Please donate to the players’ fund”