Well don’t read them then. It’ll be one less thing for you to whinge about every day.
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Recovery is not too bad.
Once you amputate, the ankle is no longer a concern. Should be good for our wheelchair team after a couple.
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Yeah nah - there’s all degrees of severity.
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Didn’t Martin do his ACL at training?
Guys take a glass half full approach we only have 11 injuries we had 16-18 last year
No , round 18 against Richmond.
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Re-did it in training during recovery…
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I think that’s a pretty unfair take. Most of the watchers/podcasters I listen to are pretty fiercely independent. They put forward their own opinion and there’s been plenty of criticism of the club.
As an example - there’s no cheerleading of Prior being positioned on the wing, most think it’s a dumb move but they also note that they can see that is what Scott will do. Plenty of criticism of Brad Scott generally, but they are nuanced in how they put it (apart from The Sash!)
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Yet most of them if not all of them put out best 22s with prior in them so they cant be that critical.
Agree - they are trying to predict what Brad Scott will do. I think they should provide their own best 23 and their predicted team knowing Scott’s personal favourites like Perkins, Prior, etc.
What a weird gripe.
As someone who has gotten down and fed training reports back, it’s bloody hard to catch everything.
There can be multiple drills happening at once and it’s easy to miss stuff on the opposite side of the oval. Let alone you often can’t quite make out exactly who or what you did see at distance, so you want to be careful of sprouting information that could be off.
But sure, you can make that out to be club influenced reports or not worthwhile if you wish
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All good. I wasn’t referring to genuine missed stuff. Of course there’s lots going on and plenty can be missed..
However, Clarke was helped from the field and in this instance I’d have thought it would’ve been noticed. I’ve been to training many, many times. Word of an incident travels fast!
I was more referring to deliberately not reporting on injuries at all because the Club have told them not to or are providing access on the basis they shape their training reports in a certain manner. I think that is going on of late and it’s part of an industry where Clubs are increasingly utilising its fanatics to communicate to members rather than expanding their communications teams… In these instances, where training reports are withholding key incidents (like an obvious serious injury) they could be seen as being a little less insightful.
I often don’t read training reports put out by the club because every player is brilliant, doing a PB and training the house down. It’s much more insightful to read a report from a Bomber nuffy who I think will give a more balanced, realistic view. That’s why training reports from track watchers are traditionally much better to read. I just hope that objectivity and disclosure isn’t lost as the transition potentially expands.
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A great tragedy to have Clarke out for the next 6-8 weeks but a good recovery should have him back and back in the AFL team. He’s part of our future!
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I’m not completely opposed to what you’re saying, but so much of it is also subjective. I’ve seen heaps of direct and pointed criticism in the training posts this off season, and if the overall tone of them has been more positive than in past years, wouldn’t it make a lot more sense if that was because the sessions themselves had improved under a new S&C team? Instead of some conspiracy involving the club exerting malign influence over people standing on the boundary and posting on blitz.
We should all be subject to reasonable and objective criticism, but geez its felt like the creators/watchers etc that post here have been the target of a significantly increased amount of criticism in recent months.
I don’t think any of us expect or want constant ass licking, but it would be nice if people would just take a beat and not immediately leap to the most negative conclusion.
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I haven’t been told directly but know from other track watchers is that the club do not like injuries to be report (straight away) with the main reason provided is to give them a chance to update the players family in case of a serious injury.
For example a few years back Jayden Hunter went don’t with his ACL and a training watcher reported it on social but was told to take it down so they could contact the family first before they saw it on twitter for example.
Some may think that isn’t a great reason to not report it and the main stream media wouldn’t care but that’s one reason that some track watchers don’t report injuries straight away
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I applaud you, sir.
There is a manifestly inexcessive use of “yeet” on this site.
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Also: great. We farked Clarke.
That’s fair.
My posting yesterday was the first time I can recall that I’ve been ‘negative’ towards any track watchers. I think I’ve on many occasions thanked track watchers for their reports and complimented them on their output.
However, I think it’s also fair to note a shift the last ~12 months in the type of stuff being reported on training… It’s an industry thing. Even games. I think there’s been a noticeable pulling back in what I’d describe as reasonable, objective criticism when it’s due. As I said yesterday, there appears to have been a collective choice to not report on injuries. Again, that’s their choice and it’s probably a trend happening at other clubs with their fans.
I think last months Carlton fan video of their terrible training session was a flashpoint in the relationship between track watchers, the media and Clubs. Everyone wants access and everyone needs each other in a positive way. However, that now appears to come with some level of conditions, restrictions and ‘rules’ to ensure everyone can continue to engage with each other outside of match-day. Fans are commercialising their passion, Clubs are outsourcing their content abd benefiting in terms of cost control and wider coverage across different platforms being presented by their fans. The industry is changing rapidly.
Again, track watchers provide excellent coverage and information that we all derive benefit from.
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